Forum: empire-en
Board: [580] Update Questions & Feedback
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BinxWarrior (GB1) [GB1]
:: Jan. 24, 2019, 11:44 p.m.
As philt has said, its running rife at the moment some people are now using a tool called vpn to hide there ip address to make it look like there in Brazil for instance where the rubies are far cheaper than the uk server, so now the new player can jump on there account on the uk server but use the purchase shop from brazil, what this does because the rubies are far cheaper in brazil, it allows them to basically max on everything quickly level 1 to 800 in 2 weeks, eagle and winged castellans in all castles, many super comms, max HOL the whole caboodle, and at the moment there are many of these accounts on the uk server alone, and gge seem veryrelaxed to this and do very little to stop it, as for who has these accounts its really not hard to work it out if you take a look my friendBatten (GB1) said:I'm not sure I totally understand where you are coming from on this and might be worth a bit of a clarification?
Firstly players have, due to development upgrades in terms of the Greenhouse, Granaries, Craft items, increased PO values and fusion, significantly increased their troop levels and are further with the ease of purchase of food and troops extend for probably between 6-12 hours at a time if not longer the level of troops they hold to create a ten to one or twenty to one disparity. This can be extended by the use of event troops 1250 tokens equates to about 250 troops in nomads and with boosters and saving tokens up troop levels can be horrendous. Now you add in my reading of an update that said we would be given an additional compliment of commanders and an extended ability to employ stronger commander equipment.
In the face of all that players want the strength of castellans, which if you read from this forum the quantity of attacks sent in the first three to four waves of a war in US server for example, to stand still relative to commanders. The problem designers would appear to have is that if they don't give us stronger castellan then the war element of the game continues to deteriorate. Essentially most players just shut up shop in the face of excessive levels of bought troops. Winning a war by buying a massive amount more troops isn't really much of a contest. If a stronger castellan extends wars or gives players more chance to defend then I personally would be in favour of it. Attackers shouldn't in my view in a war be able to take 95% of castles in the first wave. Majority of wars are currently decided in the first wave by a surprise attack on inactive players rather than beating an active alliance and buy the fact one alliance has greater spending power than the other so the defending alliance elects not to fight rather than face financial ruin trying to keep up.
In terms of PVP provided the castellan is limited in number like the Son of the Eagle Castellan to one buy then you can't cover all castles and it leaves six castles still which can be attacked with less difficulty. The problem would be if ruby players could buy seven castellans and lock their castles up. Being able to gain Insignia or the other version would take a lot longer so game will evolve and problem won't be an issue immediately. We don't actually have this information and reasonable we should be asking BM's to get that information before we make a judgement. At this stage it is hard to tell. I still feel bought troops in wars are much bigger issue and I think extended number of commanders without a lot of testing of impact on balance are a greater threat.
In terms of "Cheap ruby accounts" I would like more information about what these accounts are, who is running them and what the advantage players are gaining from them. I presume this is some new form of cheating that has evolved out of GGE gradually shutting down the use of bots.
I enjoyed playing with players from Brazil in Outer Realms they were excellent and technically pretty gifted. They didn't appear to have any genuine benefit that they didn't earn in game during the event. I not sure about Argentina or Ukraine though as they weren't represented in the alliances I played in or against. I'm personally of the view that a broader playing base with more people across the world and being part of the community is a good thing. I also don't see a huge issue with cost for new servers being cheaper initially to help them more quickly get to the level of established servers that they then need to compete against in events like the Kingdoms League, the Outer Realms or Fury's Blade style events as a bad thing. It seems a reasonable step to allow them a fairer chance at being successful. I think there is a discussion around at what point those costs are adjusted to ensure the balance doesn't swing to far in their favour though.
I was unclear exactly what the disadvantage is that I as a GB1 player am suffering based on responses above? I am competitive in most of the international events so not sure why the GB players commenting who have more developed accounts in stronger accounts feel they can't be? Clearly constantly having players banned for botting and other rule breaches is unhelpful in performance terms and perhaps from a GB perspective our top alliances maybe need to consider whether their current approach to development of players is the best approach to being competitive internationally.
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antoinecm (FR1) [FR1]
:: Jan. 25, 2019, 7:03 a.m.
@Herveus (AU1)
I take into account the fact that there will be no support, because now throwing a six waves on a single player is suicide. Generally this is done during a raid. And a good player manages to defend one side at least...
I also took into account the best version of the set shown above, but I didn’t have it, I just took a screen that I had at hand to show what kind of set it was. But I took into account of the 125% courtyard.
I take into account the fact that there will be no support, because now throwing a six waves on a single player is suicide. Generally this is done during a raid. And a good player manages to defend one side at least...
I also took into account the best version of the set shown above, but I didn’t have it, I just took a screen that I had at hand to show what kind of set it was. But I took into account of the 125% courtyard.
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Herveus (AU1) [AU1]
:: Jan. 25, 2019, 8:12 a.m.
A good player has 20-25k deff a castle 6k would be like a good legendary 80antoinecm (FR1) said:@Herveus (AU1)
I take into account the fact that there will be no support, because now throwing a six waves on a single player is suicide. Generally this is done during a raid. And a good player manages to defend one side at least...
I also took into account the best version of the set shown above, but I didn’t have it, I just took a screen that I had at hand to show what kind of set it was. But I took into account of the 125% courtyard.
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antoinecm (FR1) [FR1]
:: Jan. 25, 2019, 9:50 a.m.
@ "Herveus (AU1)"
The problem is that good players are rare and you can have multiple attacks at the same time and therefore not be auto-confine. The hall of legends' bonuses are not counted. So an offensive hall will do more damage to an offensive hall. With 20,000 defencemen, there is a balance of losses with two equivalent game styles. Offensive mode. On the other hand, against a defensive hall, it will be even more complicated to make as many losses on the side of the defenders as on the side of the attackers. But it seems to me that I read somewhere that there should be new levels for the barracks.
The problem is that good players are rare and you can have multiple attacks at the same time and therefore not be auto-confine. The hall of legends' bonuses are not counted. So an offensive hall will do more damage to an offensive hall. With 20,000 defencemen, there is a balance of losses with two equivalent game styles. Offensive mode. On the other hand, against a defensive hall, it will be even more complicated to make as many losses on the side of the defenders as on the side of the attackers. But it seems to me that I read somewhere that there should be new levels for the barracks.
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Herveus (AU1) [AU1]
:: Jan. 25, 2019, 12:07 p.m.
well why would I always pvp bad players I wanna go for good players where is the fun in repeadtily beating someone you know sucks ass at the game, do you not want a challenge??? also castellan has over 85 cry cause of the melee etc.antoinecm (FR1) said:@ "Herveus (AU1)"
Le problème est que les bons joueurs sont rares et que vous pouvez avoir plusieurs attaques en même temps et donc ne pas être autonome. Je ne compte pas les bonus de salle de légende qui s'y trouvent ... Une salle d'attaque fera plus de dégâts dans une salle d'attaque. Avec 20 000 sauvegardes, nous pouvons équilibrer les pertes avec deux styles de jeu équivalents. Par contre, contre un hall défensif, il sera encore plus compliqué de lui faire autant de défaites du côté des défenseurs que du côté des attaquants. Mais il me semble que j'ai lu quelque part qu'il devrait y avoir de nouveaux niveaux pour la caserne ... Voyez à quoi ça ressemble:
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Aatir Khaan (ASIA1) [ASIA1]
:: Jan. 25, 2019, 12:25 p.m.
Thanks broHerveus (AU1) said:you could get a second one a few months ago as rewards for a royal qustlineSir Dexyl (ASIA1) said:Can you tell me how to get 2 Ivory Pawns please?Herveus (AU1) said:Crow hero on hi with look 2 ivory pawn 2 level 12 cry gems and on to look level 10 cry gemLegendaryLia7 (INT1) said:would you like to share it with us??Katamaran (IN1) said:well some of us have a commander with 160CY and 70flankLegendaryLia7 (INT1) said:With this new cast being 120/120, 100 CY and 50 wall, it is by far the strongest castellan i have ever seen in the game, even with custom gem combinations you will not reach these numbers, and this is even without a look item, which could make this cast 120 cy or 70 wall, EXCLUDING hall bonuses. This will let someone with 4k sentinels defend a fully fledged ruby hit. This is outrageous. To come even remotely close to defeating this cast we would need commanders with over 160 CY and 90 wall. This is getting so far out of hand it's absolutely insane.which can get to 160 cy 90 flank in the near future
I got same except I use 2 level 13 cry gems
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McFlurry (US1) [None]
:: Jan. 27, 2019, 5:57 a.m.
Literally take out the ruby version , others are alirght in a way could use some tweaking
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Stumpyalaskan (US1) [US1]
:: Jan. 27, 2019, 6:32 a.m.
Stop and think a minute.
Of course this is unbalancing pvp toward the defender. Do you not think there will be an entirely new series of ruby commanders in the near future???? Relic equipment is coming very soon and it is already listed to be very powerful per piece.
Take the caps off of equipment and gems to let those of us that cant afford the ruby commanders to get inventive again!
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zeque (SKN1) [None]
:: Feb. 7, 2019, 1:24 p.m.
Soo, when is this "next february update" due? Any info? 2020? It's thu 7.2. already and no date for the update yet.BM QueenB said:Brave Warriors,
We want to inform you that the Shapeshifter castellan set "Garments of the shadow sorcerer" will finally make a return with our next February Update!
-Z
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Theking6464 (US1) [None]
:: Feb. 7, 2019, 11:16 p.m.
PVP already is broken with 100k defenders stack with support and only 3.5-4k troops sent.
the only way to win with someone with this casty (ruby version) and some support is a 150/150/150 com which is too op. best thing to do is make a 90 percxent or higher late detect com to make a bit more fair, or make this casty EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE WITH RUBIES
the only way to win with someone with this casty (ruby version) and some support is a 150/150/150 com which is too op. best thing to do is make a 90 percxent or higher late detect com to make a bit more fair, or make this casty EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE WITH RUBIES
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Deth (ASIA1) [ASIA1]
:: Feb. 8, 2019, 2:08 a.m.
The whales would still buy it. Price really won't make a difference.Theking6464 (US1) said:PVP already is broken with 100k defenders stack with support and only 3.5-4k troops sent.
the only way to win with someone with this casty (ruby version) and some support is a 150/150/150 com which is too op. best thing to do is make a 90 percxent or higher late detect com to make a bit more fair, or make this casty EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE WITH RUBIES
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Philt123 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Feb. 8, 2019, 10:20 p.m.
until they stop the cheap ruby accounts doesnt really matter, thats the most unbalancing element in the game at the moment
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Deth (ASIA1) [ASIA1]
:: Feb. 9, 2019, 12:09 a.m.
They should just standardize prices. Why should a different currency pay less?
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Shares (AU1) [AU1]
:: Feb. 9, 2019, 1:12 a.m.
idealistic but not realistic...its a question of what you can afford eg the Germans can afford to pay more than South Americans..the issue is where Germans, for instance, buy at the SA rateDeth (ASIA1) said:They should just standardize prices. Why should a different currency pay less?
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Deth (ASIA1) [ASIA1]
:: Feb. 9, 2019, 2:16 a.m.
Pick a standard rate halfway between the two.
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Philt123 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Feb. 9, 2019, 10:49 p.m.
the point is any company that has digital media that tries to give regional pricing, has to try and police misuse, compaines that do this block known vpn ips from having access to their sites, from what i have seen GGE are doing almost nothing to stop it, its know about the isse for years and have all but admitted to me that they not gonna stop it and even said they were on top of the problem!!! which to be honest is misguided arrogance at best, its rife and spreading like the plague. if you want to come anywhere in an event you either need to re morgae your house or run one of the cheap accounts, if you in a war, you will be facing literally millions of horrors coming your way for a fraction of the price you pay.
GGE have lost all control over this and for every account they change the currency on there is another 10 take its place, The reality is they are far far to slow to address these accounts.
What i cant understand is its not that difficult to get a list of Known VPN IP adresses, its already against the TOS to use software to obscure where u are playign from, why not just instantly ban any account that acesses the game from a known VPN IP address. That really would not be all that difficult.
But GGE know that the only new accounts joining the game these days are cheap ruby accounts, so banning them would mean no new accounts joining the game, the only problem with that is its sticking 2 fingers up at your loyal players that adhere to your rules. Which is very very bad business, Unfortunatly GGE have proved time and time again, it is prepared to saccrifice long term revenues for short term profits, crazy but true, but by the time the idiocy of those decisions come home to roost the senior managemt making them will have made their money and dont care, and it will be the hundreds of poor buggers who are not in that position who will carry the cost losing their jobs just like ti was the last time gge had to bin 500+ people becasue of its crazy decisions.
GGE have lost all control over this and for every account they change the currency on there is another 10 take its place, The reality is they are far far to slow to address these accounts.
What i cant understand is its not that difficult to get a list of Known VPN IP adresses, its already against the TOS to use software to obscure where u are playign from, why not just instantly ban any account that acesses the game from a known VPN IP address. That really would not be all that difficult.
But GGE know that the only new accounts joining the game these days are cheap ruby accounts, so banning them would mean no new accounts joining the game, the only problem with that is its sticking 2 fingers up at your loyal players that adhere to your rules. Which is very very bad business, Unfortunatly GGE have proved time and time again, it is prepared to saccrifice long term revenues for short term profits, crazy but true, but by the time the idiocy of those decisions come home to roost the senior managemt making them will have made their money and dont care, and it will be the hundreds of poor buggers who are not in that position who will carry the cost losing their jobs just like ti was the last time gge had to bin 500+ people becasue of its crazy decisions.
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Shares (AU1) [AU1]
:: Feb. 10, 2019, 4:40 a.m.
Philt123 (GB1) said:What i cant understand is its not that difficult to get a list of Known VPN IP adresses, its already against the TOS to use software to obscure where u are playign from, why not just instantly ban any account that acesses the game from a known VPN IP address. That really would not be all that difficult.
NOOOO.. using a vpn for privacy reasons does not necessarily break that TOS.. for instance you could be in the US and log into a vpn server IN the USA to do your normal browsing including playing this game.
why not instead insist that the game server be directly linked to how you buy rubies? eg if you play on the BR (or most EURO servers) you pay in Euros...
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Wasso (INT3) [INT3]
:: Feb. 10, 2019, 5:22 a.m.
How would THAT work on the International servers?Shares (AU1) said:Philt123 (GB1) said:What i cant understand is its not that difficult to get a list of Known VPN IP adresses, its already against the TOS to use software to obscure where u are playign from, why not just instantly ban any account that acesses the game from a known VPN IP address. That really would not be all that difficult.
NOOOO.. using a vpn for privacy reasons does not necessarily break that TOS.. for instance you could be in the US and log into a vpn server IN the USA to do your normal browsing including playing this game.
why not instead insist that the game server be directly linked to how you buy rubies? eg if you play on the BR (or most EURO servers) you pay in Euros...
Gold. of course...……...
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anoret (LT1) [LT1]
:: Feb. 10, 2019, 9:31 a.m.
New catellans, new events,and the point of new events is paying, yep thats right this game is pay to win, the place where are you coming to waste your money not to enjoy your free time, also about alliance tournament from 2018 where was bug in rewards that wasnt fixed for 10 months now but, yeah we need new events , also royal capital many promises but ggs cant do shit but put another ways of spending money, and im sure saying that ggs destroying the game and it will be dead fckin soon...
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Philt123 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Feb. 11, 2019, 12:27 p.m.
What difference would it make what server you are on?
I am not saying no one from a differnt county can access any particular server. what I am saying is anyone using an IP address of a server that is known to be a VPN IP address would be banned instantly, it wouldnt make any difference what server or country you were accessing from. Only what IP address you were accessing from. If you were genuinly from that country, there would be no need to use a VPN to mask your identity.
The only real reason people use VPN's to play this game is so they can buy rubies for a lot less money than they normally could, and to allow them to run multiple accounts. And to be able to have multiple users share one account.
All of which are the real issues in this game, all the rest of the balance issues are frankly insignificant in comparrison, lets be honest there has been loads of programming time and effort / discussions etc about the strength of the new shapeshifter cast, but when you compare that to the fact players are sending millions of horrors at you from VPN accounts, at a fraction of the price it costs you to play the game, it kinda puts it all into perspective. If GGE dont sort this issue, then i really dont understand what the point of the these discussions are. Its like spending all month working out the best way to unblock your sink as its overflowing and starting to flood your kitchen, when the real problem is that the dam wall on the outskirts of your village is about to give way, and that will wash your house away and leave the whole village 30 feet underwater!
GGE need to solve the big issues first then worry about the fine tuning later, problems shoudl be solved in order of importance / impact on the game, not in order of which is easiest to solve!!!
I am not saying no one from a differnt county can access any particular server. what I am saying is anyone using an IP address of a server that is known to be a VPN IP address would be banned instantly, it wouldnt make any difference what server or country you were accessing from. Only what IP address you were accessing from. If you were genuinly from that country, there would be no need to use a VPN to mask your identity.
The only real reason people use VPN's to play this game is so they can buy rubies for a lot less money than they normally could, and to allow them to run multiple accounts. And to be able to have multiple users share one account.
All of which are the real issues in this game, all the rest of the balance issues are frankly insignificant in comparrison, lets be honest there has been loads of programming time and effort / discussions etc about the strength of the new shapeshifter cast, but when you compare that to the fact players are sending millions of horrors at you from VPN accounts, at a fraction of the price it costs you to play the game, it kinda puts it all into perspective. If GGE dont sort this issue, then i really dont understand what the point of the these discussions are. Its like spending all month working out the best way to unblock your sink as its overflowing and starting to flood your kitchen, when the real problem is that the dam wall on the outskirts of your village is about to give way, and that will wash your house away and leave the whole village 30 feet underwater!
GGE need to solve the big issues first then worry about the fine tuning later, problems shoudl be solved in order of importance / impact on the game, not in order of which is easiest to solve!!!