Forum: empire-en

Board: [589] Strategy & Tactics Discussion

Topic: [331659] What is firecast?

[4720187] JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None] :: April 7, 2017, 9:58 a.m.

Carolyn1 (AU1) said:

Someone1k, this thread is suppose to be about fire castas...which is what we have been focusing on...you are the one heading into a different direction...Not sure why?

Pretty much all of it was covered by page 2 before you jumped on here giving your version of how fkn awsome you are. 

Not nasty, just factual.  Thats how Iprefer to see it.  I've had 4 people message me crying on your behalfover ONE fkn attack.  New rule, anyone complains on your behalf (Their is a reason your blocked...) you get hit in all 7 castles. 

You really dont get it, stop talking shit and I go away. 

[4720552] We_Ner (US1) [None] :: April 7, 2017, 7:13 p.m.

Cry babys are a big problem on US server, you cant attack anyone without a msg sent. Gotten really sad. Now for a take on actual threads content. My take on firecasts is they are fine. Its part of the game now. As an attacker i have to bear the risk of losing my flags, if thats the d someone online chooses. The problem comes when the defender purposely sets his troops to rake all 3 flanks of tools. There is 0 reason to do that outside of war. Your basically telling me to F off and starting hostilitys the same as if you were to start stealing rvs, attacking with multis etc etc. All the same BS in my opinion. When this tool burning is employed with the use of a firecast then i mass the entire players acct. Will continue to do so till they learn. Use it fine, but use it like a grown up and not some pissy little baby trying to take any bit of money and tools you can just cause someone sent an attack in a game that has attacking....... grow the f up

[4720684] Freydis (AU1) [AU1] :: April 7, 2017, 10:31 p.m.

Well, thank you We_ner, for giving me your permission to tool rake the players complaining about the tool raking above.....for your information we are at war..... have been for many months...so tool raking is an acceptable practice

[4720704] We_Ner (US1) [None] :: April 8, 2017, 12:41 a.m.

Carolyn1 (AU1) said:

Well, thank you We_ner, for giving me your permission to tool rake the players complaining about the tool raking above.....for your information we are at war..... have been for many months...so tool raking is an acceptable practice

I was commenting on the actual thread not your childish arguement with someone from another server. I dont care if your at war, i dont care what you do in your war with firecasts as i said it has no place OUTSIDE of war. Keep your personal salty BS to PM's with people.

[4720765] JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None] :: April 8, 2017, 5:47 a.m.

@Carolyn1 (AU1)

Read my original post.. 

I say I dont mind firecastas, from memory I say that I encourage their use.  I am both for them and against them, its a complex relationship but I recognise their place in the game.  On one hand, I dont care if people USE a fire casta when I hit them or anyone else, as I use firecastas.  It doesnt matter.  I am against toolraking with them.  War or no war.  I loose all my tools when you defend and your successful.  I got no issue with that.  When you cant defend toolraking just because your butthurt is pathetic.  @jennyj (AU1) yourself and many others toolrake every fkn hit that you dont defend.  Its pretty sad really. 

As @We_Ner (US1) highlighted above, his issue is with the toolrakign with them.  Pretty much my issue as well. 

BTW, last time Jenny attacked me I was offline, had a firecasta up, she didnt get toolraked as it isnt set to toolrake all three flanks it was 100-0-0 porsimilar with no tools on the wall.  Even if im online I wont be toolraking I will be defending, if I cant defend, I sure as fk am not toolraking unless its a full on properwar thats got dirty, ours is far from that.  It's a sad state when you constantly toolrake and point the finger at other people.  Your responsible for your own shit, dont blame others for your immature approach when it comes to this. 

[4720818] Someone1000 (AU1) [AU1] :: April 8, 2017, 8:10 a.m.

I don't care if Carolyn firecasts. In fact I don't care if anyone in her dead alliance uses it. As long as you stop tool-raking. If you can't defend, cool, firecast it, or open gates. But stop wasting my tools. The only reason I constantly keep farming you people is because you shamelessly tool-rake. Get a hold and stop being sore loser. 

[4721049] Wasso (INT3) [INT3] :: April 8, 2017, 4:22 p.m.

Someone1000 (AU1) said:

I don't care if Carolyn firecasts. In fact I don't care if anyone in her dead alliance uses it. As long as you stop tool-raking. If you can't defend, cool, firecast it, or open gates. But stop wasting my tools. The only reason I constantly keep farming you people is because you shamelessly tool-rake. Get a hold and stop being sore loser. 

Stepping out of the cheap seats for a moment.........

Why should those being attacked (in war or not) care to save the tools of those who are attacking them?   That the attacker may lose his tools or troops, is part of the risk of sending them.  If you don't want to lose your tools, don't send them. 

Headed back to the shadows..........

[4721542] Redbeauty84 (AU1) [None] :: April 9, 2017, 9:04 a.m.

Mycrotia (US1) said:

Someone1000 (AU1) said:

I don't care if Carolyn firecasts. In fact I don't care if anyone in her dead alliance uses it. As long as you stop tool-raking. If you can't defend, cool, firecast it, or open gates. But stop wasting my tools. The only reason I constantly keep farming you people is because you shamelessly tool-rake. Get a hold and stop being sore loser. 

Stepping out of the cheap seats for a moment.........

Why should those being attacked (in war or not) care to save the tools of those who are attacking them?   That the attacker may lose his tools or troops, is part of the risk of sending them.  If you don't want to lose your tools, don't send them. 

Headed back to the shadows..........

why thankyou mycrotia,  

We are at war somone1000 you send attacks at us we will tool rake you in our defence settings simple as that. Don't like it, don't  attack us. I  know by the time you finally joined the seps, you had been waiting months on end to attack us, only to find that as soon as you do we laugh at your attempts. the commanders you sent a SwanQueener98 are just  laughable and your attacking style is similar to quite a few of the members of argustuft who we were at war with since last year, and that jjjjjjsk stuck his unwanted nose into it the minute we declared war on argustuft. 

by the way we aren't the 'sore losers' as you put it. since we didn't start the war with seps, that  was jjjjjsk's doing. In fact we have mostly refrained from hitting your alliance. Only time we do is when we get fed up with players like yourself attacking us when you really shouldn't be doing.Yes we have the war button on, but we have for months now been trying to get in contact with a sane and level headed member of your alliance to end this ridiculous war that your alliance started. 

We ended our war with Argustuft, so why haven't those in management in the seps tried for a reasonable peace offer and not  the ridiculous 50% offer you keep sending we are not the ones in the wrong here so we shouldn't have to pay tribute.

Now, as regards to fire castas which I will remind everyone who  might be reading this thread, are an essential part of this game now, considering how the big alliances like to play the game. the smaller alliances out there and there are many of them,  I checked on the /Aus1 server alone there are over 1k in alliances, where only the top 40 are somewhat decent in size, and the top 5 being the biggest of the alliances.

The use of fire castas comes in handy against the big alliances coming at you with their 5 and 6 wave attacks. If you have an alliance big enough to defend against those big attacks then do so, I won't discourage you from doing so. But remember your fire castas are there to help you when you are not able to defend or just really don't want to engage the bullies in the game. It is a way for you to stand up against them.  

[4721615] Someone1000 (AU1) [AU1] :: April 9, 2017, 10:25 a.m.

So you think my attacks are somewhat "laughable"?? If they are so why don't you defend? They are so weak so why don't you defend? Just yesterday I took 11.5k of PHOENIX troops. And I only lost maybe 1k attackers or less. I don't bother sending tools on you anymore. Your crap defences aren't worth it. True I do send crap commanders on SwanQueener98 because she isn't worth using up my good commanders. 

I don't care if you keep using your pathetic fire-castas. But tool raking is not acceptable. Every single attack that is sent, you tool rake. And no, it doesn't stop me from attacking you. It makes me want to strip your alliance of all their rvs, and constantly keep farming your dead members.

Get a grip. Either open, or firecast. Stop wasting our tools.

[4721662] Freydis (AU1) [AU1] :: April 9, 2017, 11:52 a.m.

It is simple someone1k, stop attacking and your tools will not be raked.... you really are a slow learner are you not?

It is quite acceptable to set defences to tool rake with firecastas especially when in war and it is not my fault you joined an alliance which has been at war with us for months that was your choice. Although from the word on the server your alliance have plenty of targets, it seems a lot of smaller alliances are being declared on by the Seperatists, to gain resources using your war loot bonus...a bit over the top to request a 50% tribute from them to improve your capital. lol

Sadly, others do not stand up to you and will pay the tribute over and over again...I paid it once in September, I won't pay again, especially since we have done no wrong to your alliance to instigate this war this time.

And, with regards to rvs...I was once full to the brim with rvs...have only a handful now, so i think to me anyway it has no real meaning...i can survive without rvs...it seems your alliance is the one which jumps up and down about rvs and goes back on an agreement made years ago that rvs in the name of Invictus were given to our alliance in good faith, but most of those are already in the hands of the Seperatists....the others left are with Argustuft and we went to war with them to gain those ones back after the Invictus players left us with their tail between their legs when we first became involved in a war with your new alliance.

You may not be aware but the rvs we gained from that confrontation with Argustuft were dropped by us everytime jjjjjsk attacked us. lol

So, your threat has no meaning for me, I am sorry...

I will be keeping my firecastas in place and keeping rocks on my walls for as long as the Seperatists hold the war button above us and I will defend when I wish with my strongest casta or leave my firescastas in place that is the simple beauty of the firecastas...I have a choice.

Also, it was nice of jjjjjjsk to visit me last night while I was off line, I also see he chose to hit the weakest firecasta. lol

I was at a 21st party, having a great time with friends.

[4721680] JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None] :: April 9, 2017, 12:22 p.m.

Carolyn1 (AU1) said:

It is simple someone1k, stop attacking and your tools will not be raked.... you really are a slow learner are you not?

It is quite acceptable to set defences to tool rake with firecastas especially when in war and it is not my fault you joined an alliance which has been at war with us for months that was your choice. Although from the word on the server your alliance have plenty of targets, it seems a lot of smaller alliances are being declared on by the Seperatists, to gain resources using your war loot bonus...a bit over the top to request a 50% tribute from them to improve your capital. lol

Sadly, others do not stand up to you and will pay the tribute over and over again...I paid it once in September, I won't pay again, especially since we have done no wrong to your alliance to instigate this war this time.

And, with regards to rvs...I was once full to the brim with rvs...have only a handful now, so i think to me anyway it has no real meaning...i can survive without rvs...it seems your alliance is the one which jumps up and down about rvs and goes back on an agreement made years ago that rvs in the name of Invictus were given to our alliance in good faith, but most of those are already in the hands of the Seperatists....the others left are with Argustuft and we went to war with them to gain those ones back after the Invictus players left us with their tail between their legs when we first became involved in a war with your new alliance.

You may not be aware but the rvs we gained from that confrontation with Argustuft were dropped by us everytime jjjjjsk attacked us. lol

So, your threat has no meaning for me, I am sorry...

I will be keeping my firecastas in place and keeping rocks on my walls for as long as the Seperatists hold the war button above us and I will defend when I wish with my strongest casta or leave my firescastas in place that is the simple beauty of the firecastas...I have a choice.

Also, it was nice of jjjjjjsk to visit me last night while I was off line, I also see he chose to hit the weakest firecasta. lol

I was at a 21st party, having a great time with friends.

dear me...

Agreement went both ways, members went between they got to keep RV's.  Thats howthe first war started when you tried to nab someback we said fk off. 

Look, you want peace at 0%, done.  Ill flick it through now,  but stop talkign bullshit.  Ill still attack you and you will still tool rake.  Just as I cant speak for you, and I try not to even think form your perspective as its obviously fked up beyond beleif.  You cant speak from our perspective. 

Yes, were at war with HALF the server, but who the fvck isnt ?

Accept peace, go back to your hole.  When you get attacked, dont use war as an excuss for toolraking. 

[4721681] JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None] :: April 9, 2017, 12:26 p.m.

BTW @Carolyn1 (AU1) when you have 10k in the keewp with your strongest casta and loose them all... I would advise you keep firecasta's up as opposed to defending. 

Just a pointer in regards to your capacity to actually defend, its horrible.  Just get rid of the toolrakes you potato. 

[4721694] Redbeauty84 (AU1) [None] :: April 9, 2017, 12:42 p.m.

LOL   

jjjjjjjjjjjsk you really do not know us one bit do you. Wea re not the same people who were once members  of separatists before leaving to start their own alliance. Those players are mostly gone from the game, besides Snow2 and Ladyhawke. 

By the way Ladyhawke has so many rvs that once belong to seps it's not funny but you know where she is don't you? She is in argustuft. 

But like carol I can live without the rvs so someone1000 feel like stealing rvs that never once belonged too you gob right on ahead see how far that will get you.

As for tool raking? It is a well accepted tactic during war, and your alliance the seps has used it many times before, so might want to stop being so hypocritical.  As for our defence tactics? We are more then free to set our defences any way we want to, you are not in control of our actions so therefore have zero right to tell us what we can and can't do. if we want to set our defences to tool rake your attacks that is entirely our prerogative. We want to have fire castas on 24/7 365 days of the year? Then we can do that and there is absolutely nothing you can say or do about it.

Like I said before you don't like having your tools raked? don't attack us. And do everyone here a favour and quit whinging and complaining about loosing your tools when you attack us. 

Why did SwanQueener98 decide not to bother defend against your laughable attacks? Simply because she didn't want to, or want us to send support. She  has other more important things to do for us in the alliance than to have to bother defending your attacks. She is bored with you, she has told us many times in chat, and refers to you as her 'stalker'. and not really worthy of her respect or attention or time.

I will continue to use my fire castas with my rocks and flame arrows whenever I feel like it, because as I said  that is what I am free to do. 

[4721700] Venom (ASIA1) [ASIA1] :: April 9, 2017, 12:47 p.m.

I bet seps refer to you as the, "pathetic"

[4721705] JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None] :: April 9, 2017, 12:55 p.m.

Redbeauty84 (AU1) said:

LOL   

jjjjjjjjjjjsk you really do not know us one bit do you. Wea re not the same people who were once members  of separatists before leaving to start their own alliance. Those players are mostly gone from the game, besides Snow2 and Ladyhawke. 

By the way Ladyhawke has so many rvs that once belong to seps it's not funny but you know where she is don't you? She is in argustuft. 

But like carol I can live without the rvs so someone1000 feel like stealing rvs that never once belonged too you gob right on ahead see how far that will get you.

As for tool raking? It is a well accepted tactic during war, and your alliance the seps has used it many times before, so might want to stop being so hypocritical.  As for our defence tactics? We are more then free to set our defences any way we want to, you are not in control of our actions so therefore have zero right to tell us what we can and can't do. if we want to set our defences to tool rake your attacks that is entirely our prerogative. We want to have fire castas on 24/7 365 days of the year? Then we can do that and there is absolutely nothing you can say or do about it.

Like I said before you don't like having your tools raked? don't attack us. And do everyone here a favour and quit whinging and complaining about loosing your tools when you attack us. 

Why did SwanQueener98 decide not to bother defend against your laughable attacks? Simply because she didn't want to, or want us to send support. She  has other more important things to do for us in the alliance than to have to bother defending your attacks. She is bored with you, she has told us many times in chat, and refers to you as her 'stalker'. and not really worthy of her respect or attention or time.

I will continue to use my fire castas with my rocks and flame arrows whenever I feel like it, because as I said  that is what I am free to do. 

rofl...

I've got 3 or 4? firecastas up atm, and not a single one is set to tool rake...  Not a single one, havent been for over 12 or 15 months.  If im not defending im not taking tools off someone just because....  all it does is make it so that they have to give GGE more cash or cant attack again as they farm the rubies to buy the tools.  PvP is a part of the game, so are firecastas. 

Moronic toolraking for no reason is a part of yoru game but the wider community frowns upon it. 

If its a widly used practice, show the last time we did it.  Stop pointing the finger you stupid moron, your the one embracing it not us nor any other poster. 

I dont care about your chat either, its like a collection of ladys who horde cats and collect their hair or someshit, you really are something special in that regard.  You want to say war is why you toolrake, well war got taken away, whats your reason  now ??

Just because you can... pretty sad really.  Your running out of options to point fingers at people. 

[4721708] Someone1000 (AU1) [AU1] :: April 9, 2017, 1:03 p.m.

Redbeauty84 (AU1) said:

As for tool raking? It is a well accepted tactic during war, and your alliance the seps has used it many times before, so might want to stop being so hypocritical.  As for our defence tactics? We are more then free to set our defences any way we want to, you are not in control of our actions so therefore have zero right to tell us what we can and can't do. if we want to set our defences to tool rake your attacks that is entirely our prerogative. We want to have fire castas on 24/7 365 days of the year? Then we can do that and there is absolutely nothing you can say or do about it.

Like I said before you don't like having your tools raked? don't attack us. And do everyone here a favour and quit whinging and complaining about loosing your tools when you attack us. 

Cool. Go and tool-rake me once more. And I will set all 7 of your castle alight. 

I remember when I started this game I saw your alliance description saying no tool-raking blah blah and a lot of other rules. You never follow the rules yourself. and change it however you like it. For example "tool raking is accepted tactic during war". and you call us the bullies? you accuse us of breaking the rules? Get your facts right. 

You cry about being burnt at burning castles? then why don't you muppets repair those fires? I have seen you repair the graneries, keep a few attackers in there and leave the towers burning. You think you are gonna abuse the fire-protection rule and get away with it? Don't think so. 

[4721711] Freydis (AU1) [AU1] :: April 9, 2017, 1:25 p.m.

Someonek1 if I remember correctly, we have not been the ones complaining...you seem to be doing all the complaining...

The only thing we have complained about was that we refused to pay another 50% tribute...

Thank you jjjjjjsk for finally releasing us from war...without having to pay a tribute. If you had only answered my pms without blocking me this could have been done privately without all the publicity.

One thing though all the small alliances out there have learned about firecastas and their important use in the game, thanks to yourself and the other players who posted on this thread. 

[4721716] JJJJJJSK (AU1) [None] :: April 9, 2017, 1:37 p.m.

first toolrake I get war is back in place carolyn. 

You get time tofix fires, after that, fk ya, your excusses gone. 

And I  wont be nice next time. 

[4721725] Someone1000 (AU1) [AU1] :: April 9, 2017, 2 p.m.

I am not complaining Carolyn lol. i am just giving a reply to all pms i get from PHOENIX about me bullying you ppl. i make a hit peacefully. And then you rake me. i hit all your members for the rest of the week. i get my inbox filled calling me a bully

you don't tool-rake, i wont light up all your members. simple as that. 

[4721854] Wasso (INT3) [INT3] :: April 9, 2017, 4:05 p.m.

Someone1000 (AU1) said:

 i make a hit peacefully.

This will be my last post on this thread.  (Cheers erupt from the masses)

The person RECEIVING that hit, would not view it as "peacefully" done.  There is CLEARLY existing animosity between your Alliances.  This being the case, NO hits will be viewed as "peaceful".

Someone1000 (AU1) said:

 And then you rake me.

So, when you do something that THEY don't want, they do something that YOU don't want.  Seems appropriate. 

Someone1000 (AU1) said:

. i hit all your members for the rest of the week.

Here comes the escalation. 

Someone1000 (AU1) said:

you don't tool-rake, i wont light up all your members. simple as that. 

Finally the demand and threat of non-compliance. 

This IS a war game.  I accept that.  But as such, you have to agree to it as well.  If you want to burn all castles, OPs, take RVs, etc etc., you CAN.  It is within the Game Dynamics.  If your opponents want to tool-rake and fire cast, that is within the Game Dynamics as well.

Have at all those techniques.  Play the game as it was designed.

IF your Alliance and your opposing Alliance want to agree to "terms of war" or "terms for peace" then agree to it.  But, they are not GGS rules.