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[4356321] pcsurgeon (NL1) [None] :: March 22, 2016, 3:59 p.m.

Team meets my baseball bat....

[4356379] Batten (GB1) [GB1] :: March 22, 2016, 4:42 p.m.

@ang1243 (GB1) I think the net deficit of rewards between top five alliances and top five players is already so great that the rewards given are irrelevant. They earn maybe two or three times the number of rewards per event I do anyway so we aren't really playing the same game anymore. I set my own targets these days I'm not really interested in the GGE structured element which is repetitive, lacks imagination and a compelling narrative which wasn't the case in the early days. I understand the level at which I'm prepared to compete and stick to it. These tournaments are really about players as consumers buying a product more than they are about players competing to win an award. When I played in Berimond I got to second and briefly threatened to pass the top having worked hard to get to that position. The leading player wrote to me to tell me he was going to spend £300 presumably to ensure victory which is fair enough but perhaps illustrates my point about the old style players and current batch of top five consumers who purchase success. You spend enough you gain the reward you don't really earn it anymore. When the game plays you quite so openly I think players like me choose to renegotiate our relationship with it and play on our terms to our standards and our goals. At this stage I see no reason to play an aspect of the game which has no link to the narrative and will not benefit me. Why waste troops on attacks I won't win against alliances I can't now compete with?

[4356516] Rable3 (US1) [None] :: March 22, 2016, 6:29 p.m.

I guess opt out would be to do a "dove". But considering Brussels ~ attacking in International 2 and hitting someone who may be a family member ...

The USA1 server stated the results would be updated/posted on Facebook - I noticed that wasn't mentioned here. But the announcement on the USA server did not mention a trip to Germany - so I need to go back and check that.

[4356612] Surfer (NL1) [None] :: March 22, 2016, 7:29 p.m.

TwistedMind (GB1) said:

The whole point behind this insane event, that is suppose to have duration of 7 days after 5 days of Alliance Tournament is to set the whole servers at flames...
With this huge server clean up, they are doing like emperor Nero did in past by setting fire to Rome, cause he just wanted a new Rome..
Seems GGS wants to clean up what is "inconvenient" for them also.. To make a new beginning..

It is just every upcoming idea more stupid than the others before. Always full of unmeasured Mistakes!
Seems like a fools contest, to come with the most sad and unthinkable, without using their brains.
Some say GGS is ruled and manage by kids, but no! Kids have smarter ideas of events and nowadays can easily deal with programs without any problem!
So it is ruled by foolish that only think in £.

Handy kit for regular player to survive this event (if it is like it seems a stupid prolonged in time camouflaged alliance tournament):
- do not have defense troops in any of your castles (without defense troops attackers would not get any glory.. so this way you are not feeding ruby whales with easy glory in defenseless attacks)
(better see your defense troops killed by yourself, than see them feeding others in senseless battles)
(here you can have some fires, but whatever you can live with that)
(do not forget to use up all your resources in castle upgrades, send to other kingdooms, give to alliance, or just use them to make tools of defense and attack that consume a lot of resources.. this time is a good time to re-tool also for other events)
(of coarse you can have attack troops, but only enough for your daily tasks... they wont give much glory if they anyhow are caught by attackers.. and when you log off just send them far away until you return.. distant tower or whatever..)

This way, you do not feed this insane Money Making Machine with loot and Glory.
This the only way to boycott this stupid and sad event!

Yeah, that's the cowards way out. You could also just attack other people during this event and defend the best you can with the help from your alliance. And if you're being attacked by a God/super comm with 6 waves you just open your gate and get your resources out, no worries.

I have got a complaint for ggs though. This "New" event runs during the spring event so I hope we also get spring points for getting glory when attacking an other player. Because in the in-game description of the spring event it says nothing about this new event.

[4356648] LegendaryLia7 (INT1) [INT1] :: March 22, 2016, 7:57 p.m.

Mario 999 (GB1) said:

So let me see here, Rubie boycott, people leaving, so lets all attack each other and spend spend spend to win , wait will we win or will it all fall over and we get nothing yet spend a fortune then get told as a gesture of good will here are some wishing well pennies which is what i got offered today for spending £50 on the game and then it all falls over, great compo and I wont be taking it, hate getting screwed out of money when it actually costs them nothing to put rubies or the carts and tools back into your account.

Fed up, annoyed and done with buying anything anymore in this game.

Getting that trip to ggs studio will cost more than if you would go there yourself.

Since the banner costs for winning that crazy amount of glory will be higher than the trip itself

[4356711] TwistedMind (GB1) [None] :: March 22, 2016, 8:54 p.m.

Surfer (NL1) said:

TwistedMind (GB1) said:

The whole point behind this insane event, that is suppose to have duration of 7 days after 5 days of Alliance Tournament is to set the whole servers at flames...
With this huge server clean up, they are doing like emperor Nero did in past by setting fire to Rome, cause he just wanted a new Rome..
Seems GGS wants to clean up what is "inconvenient" for them also.. To make a new beginning..

It is just every upcoming idea more stupid than the others before. Always full of unmeasured Mistakes!
Seems like a fools contest, to come with the most sad and unthinkable, without using their brains.
Some say GGS is ruled and manage by kids, but no! Kids have smarter ideas of events and nowadays can easily deal with programs without any problem!
So it is ruled by foolish that only think in £.

Handy kit for regular player to survive this event (if it is like it seems a stupid prolonged in time camouflaged alliance tournament):
- do not have defense troops in any of your castles (without defense troops attackers would not get any glory.. so this way you are not feeding ruby whales with easy glory in defenseless attacks)
(better see your defense troops killed by yourself, than see them feeding others in senseless battles)
(here you can have some fires, but whatever you can live with that)
(do not forget to use up all your resources in castle upgrades, send to other kingdooms, give to alliance, or just use them to make tools of defense and attack that consume a lot of resources.. this time is a good time to re-tool also for other events)
(of coarse you can have attack troops, but only enough for your daily tasks... they wont give much glory if they anyhow are caught by attackers.. and when you log off just send them far away until you return.. distant tower or whatever..)

This way, you do not feed this insane Money Making Machine with loot and Glory.
This the only way to boycott this stupid and sad event!

Yeah, that's the cowards way out. You could also just attack other people during this event and defend the best you can with the help from your alliance. And if you're being attacked by a God/super comm with 6 waves you just open your gate and get your resources out, no worries.

I have got a complaint for ggs though. This "New" event runs during the spring event so I hope we also get spring points for getting glory when attacking an other player. Because in the in-game description of the spring event it says nothing about this new event.

You can call it what you want, cause i just call it RocK & Roll!..
It is not coward to do a strategic retreat, so..

And, in the end you just say what i say, so bunch of nonsense.
Open gates cost rubies..
So i am telling about the cheap open gates...
And, you might not even be online to try to open gates and give resources away in last minute.
So, if you are not prepared, you might lose more than you want, or desire..

And, i do not care if i can attack!
I play the game as i like, and i do not jump out of a cliff or to a well if others say so...
Besides, if i think this whole concept is wrong, that means that i am not attacking no one either.
I am always faithful to my principles, and to what i defend.
That means, if no defense, no attack also.
Total boycott..

To hell with the possible spring points!... I, just do not sell my soul for nothing!..
Anyway, i have good stuff that i have been conquering, do not need that crap from spring..
Already have fine commanders, and for the first time lots of red and orange equip in store..
So it is a dead end.

[4356734] makale (AU1) [None] :: March 22, 2016, 9:05 p.m.

Win a trip to meet the wonderful GGS team...spare me days!! get in the office and they are all asleep, or it will be a public holiday. Or they will listen politely and then when you leave laugh behind your back. If you go to Hamburg, better off spending your time and money down the Reeperbahn !!

[4357127] RMD2B (OPENBETA1) [None] :: March 23, 2016, 10:08 a.m.

Well, we'll have lots of "fun" slaughtering each other, only to give each other rewards as a result.

Rip brain, trying to see the logic

[4357180] zip (GB1) [None] :: March 23, 2016, 10:18 a.m.

As always, every player in here seems to be conveniently forgetting that the game at it's base is about PVP, rather than pretty castle builder, with npc farming thrown in. Very worrying to see players are not scared of any sort of PVP. If you can't deal with a 6 wave attack OG. If you can;t deal with a 5 wave attack I think you need to look at the lack of pvp experience you are getting as a serious cause of this.

[4357258] Philt123 (GB1) [GB1] :: March 23, 2016, 10:36 a.m.

I totally agree with batten about giving multis rewards, as we all know even gge know they are getting out of hand, running totally uncontrolled. Maybe there should at the very very least be a minimum participation qualification. To ensure that the many many dead shells out there dont get the prizes.

And i totally agree with the top prize!!! nice thought but the guy that wins it probably has his own private jet, and could probably buy GGE if he was that bothered never mind visit it. Nice thought, not sure the reality will the same.

[4357574] Tandav (IN1) [IN1] :: March 23, 2016, 12:57 p.m.

i think gb1 player are right i also thik the people who try for 1 place in 100000l player and win it he might be 1 of the biggest ruby buyer and no ruby player just see it how they make that much...
and all the think that might be interset of seeing all sever combine and hitting each others madly and wasting ruby and troops and they will be bloodshed when the holi is thr in india india player will play holi wih the blood of there troops
anyway if u got hit with 6 wave then u can not def that sure even to defeat the god commander is immposible if u are not having god castellan then forget whow much the loss u got and which type of troops..............................................dead.............................................end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[4357825] Batten (GB1) [GB1] :: March 23, 2016, 4:04 p.m.

zip (GB1) said:

As always, every player in here seems to be conveniently forgetting that the game at it's base is about PVP, rather than pretty castle builder, with npc farming thrown in. Very worrying to see players are not scared of any sort of PVP. If you can't deal with a 6 wave attack OG. If you can;t deal with a 5 wave attack I think you need to look at the lack of pvp experience you are getting as a serious cause of this.

I would take the view that a significant proportion of the players who played when I started remember exactly what PVP involved and had plenty of practice. The alliance tournament isn't PVP anymore and neither will this new tournament be,

You play in an alliance with 65 high level players, metro's, capitals, full RV's, multiple rewarded 230 PO items which essentially means an awful lot more food and a lot more troops. The alliance has a ruby spend in a week that matches some alliances spend in a month or a year. Players in your alliance have the best equipment and the financial resource to buy attack tools. Doubtless you have six waves of an attack, a high level hall with all the bonuses and aren't generally having your defense wiped out in the earlier stages of a tournament defending weaker colleagues with developing castellans.

We aren't scared we simply have a much better understanding than you do of the implications for alliances and players at our level. Players at my level have repeatedly asked for rebalancing measures to allow us to rebuild faster without rubies, to remove bought troops from tournaments to prevent instant restocking and allow us time to recover. After one day of a tournament our defence is shot so after 11 days we won't be able to defend at all.

I had no problem taking players out in the old PVP Berimond and in the past I didn't still struggle when defence was worth something. Anyone can hit players of a lower level like shooting ducks without your advantages describing that as PVP as in the old sense is a joke. PVP is dead, it died when players were allowed to get to level 800 and the gap was allowed to grow to big. There is no difference now between hitting players and hitting towers, towers are often better defended.

I would strongly suggest you and alliances at your level seriously consider the implications because unlike Phil - who gets it -I think you are significantly underestimating just how disenchanted my generation of players are. Players like me and those I have come up are likely now to just walk away from a game that we have invested in but which has become simply a mechanism for making money.

[4357861] UD1 (INT1) [INT1] :: March 23, 2016, 4:28 p.m.

Well i guess i dont care about updates any more will not let it bring me down , i will not walk away from my castle, i invested far too much money and time in it , i made 7 fire cast so no more open gates, but i dont buy rubies , and this makes me a . it the only way i can get back at GGE ,because of there bugs lies non existant support , also they will not get fat off my money. So now i am extremely HAPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. so they can make bugs release updates basically do as they please, as long as i can chat with my friends, this way i can actually beat GGE .

[4357885] WiteLighting (GB1) [None] :: March 23, 2016, 4:35 p.m.

Haha! Just you guys wait. When the Battle of Empires start, the thunder will rumble, then you will wait for the lightning to strike...
There is a rebellion coming, ruby boycotts, PvP boycotts. The updates GGS are doing are stupid and unfair, there is a limit to the amount of unfair updates we can take and GGS aren't far from toeing the line.

[4358118] zip (GB1) [None] :: March 23, 2016, 7:12 p.m.

Batten (GB1) said:

zip (GB1) said:

As always, every player in here seems to be conveniently forgetting that the game at it's base is about PVP, rather than pretty castle builder, with npc farming thrown in. Very worrying to see players are not scared of any sort of PVP. If you can't deal with a 6 wave attack OG. If you can;t deal with a 5 wave attack I think you need to look at the lack of pvp experience you are getting as a serious cause of this.

I would take the view that a significant proportion of the players who played when I started remember exactly what PVP involved and had plenty of practice. The alliance tournament isn't PVP anymore and neither will this new tournament be,

You play in an alliance with 65 high level players, metro's, capitals, full RV's, multiple rewarded 230 PO items which essentially means an awful lot more food and a lot more troops. The alliance has a ruby spend in a week that matches some alliances spend in a month or a year. Players in your alliance have the best equipment and the financial resource to buy attack tools. Doubtless you have six waves of an attack, a high level hall with all the bonuses and aren't generally having your defense wiped out in the earlier stages of a tournament defending weaker colleagues with developing castellans.

We aren't scared we simply have a much better understanding than you do of the implications for alliances and players at our level. Players at my level have repeatedly asked for rebalancing measures to allow us to rebuild faster without rubies, to remove bought troops from tournaments to prevent instant restocking and allow us time to recover. After one day of a tournament our defence is shot so after 11 days we won't be able to defend at all.

I had no problem taking players out in the old PVP Berimond and in the past I didn't still struggle when defence was worth something. Anyone can hit players of a lower level like shooting ducks without your advantages describing that as PVP as in the old sense is a joke. PVP is dead, it died when players were allowed to get to level 800 and the gap was allowed to grow to big. There is no difference now between hitting players and hitting towers, towers are often better defended.

I would strongly suggest you and alliances at your level seriously consider the implications because unlike Phil - who gets it -I think you are significantly underestimating just how disenchanted my generation of players are. Players like me and those I have come up are likely now to just walk away from a game that we have invested in but which has become simply a mechanism for making money.

PVP has changed, we aren't in the 1280 days anymore, as much as I wish we where. PVP has adapted and rather than learn how to play under the new circumstances, I see groups of players instead resulting to whining. What we have now are a set of circumstances which favour playing events rather than hitting actual players. Which results in the new players coming through, what should be the lifeblood of the server, instead of having any interest in putting in the effort to being PVP ready, and the only way to be ready for a war is to remain active on the server, sending attacks and defending against them.

I used to play with a £20 a month ruby budget, but haven't spent a penny in the last 6 months, instead relying on forts for rubies, and knowledge of the game, which on the whole, I find a far more rewarding experience. As for the 6th wavse, as much as I would love to have it, it is still a far off prospect, with my hall still only in the mid 100's.

The truth is PVP is dying, and it is the life blood of the game, It has got so bad that the only alliance that I can guarantee a fight at is CG. In terms of 6 waves, I agree that it is too much for all but about 4 alliances. Getting hit by 6 waves, with the right cast and 10k+ support you can hold it to around 3kish losses, though mikeshot running his extra bonus's usually takes more. However this is not readily available in most of the alliances around the server.

However, recently we have seen steps to rectify this imbalance, introduction of the FI comm, which in my opinion, is better than the highlander, and I still prefer it above the new super that has been introduced, purely due to the huge cy bonus you can rack up on it. The sam cast is equally important, the starting bonus of 20cy is extremely important, with every attack now won and lost in the keep.

I have looked at the scored for this tournament, and one word comes to mind, static. There has been next to no change int he rankings since the end of the FI, which by itself is a joke. The end of bought armies, will also help with the tournament for smaller alliances. Players will now have to wait for a personal prime/ event rewards for a horror army, and we are more likely to see recruited armies back again, reminiscent of the 1280 days.

There has definitely been movements to restrict PVP even more on this server, with ridiculous suggestions, like moving all your troops, and resources out and letting an army march through, is not a pseudo OG. Suggestions like this are not to help developing alliances from being hit, but rather the cries of players who do not like being hit. Ironically, the most helpful maneuver to any smaller alliance, especially during the Tournament, would be to dispel any hit cooldowns, or hit limits(3 a day per family). As it would allow the top end to hit top end, without being forced downwards by restrictive PVP regulations.

[4358212] jotto (US1) [None] :: March 23, 2016, 8:30 p.m.

so did event start ?

[4358251] Goselotje (NL1) [NL1] :: March 23, 2016, 8:46 p.m.

The event will start tomorrow 24 March at 10:00am

To be honost I hate this event even before it started. Our server cannot go for the prizes, because we are not on a direct goodgames server. We are only good as GGE sponors and nothing more!!!!!

I do not want to join this event and also do not want to be attacked during the event. Only thing I can do is have Tweety on my castle so Sylvester can take my villages????? This event is too stupid for words.

[4358266] Goselotje (NL1) [NL1] :: March 23, 2016, 8:58 p.m.

It all concerns about glory.

So when your alliance has a lot of king towers and metro's. You can take the metro to an academy and let the members send 40k defenders to the metro. With 800% kingtower bonus, a strong ruby commander, only flags, alliance glory bonus, alliance attacking strenght and 6 waves it will be easy to make between 7-8 million glory points for 1 player.

This is how it will go and players who cannot buy rubies or are in a small alliance will never have a chance.

I see more and more players who leave the game because they are not able to compete against the ruby players with their 6 waves..

[4358468] Kamex (INT2) [None] :: March 24, 2016, 3:10 a.m.

Lets hope this event is not just another source of income for GGE , but also something for non Ruby player in that

[4358627] Tandav (IN1) [IN1] :: March 24, 2016, 9:14 a.m.

gge sleeping where is update yaar?

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