Forum: empire-en
Board: [816] News from the world of Empire
Topic: [345151] [Feedback needed] Shapeshifter Trial Run
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Herveus (AU1) [AU1]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 8:04 a.m.
The shapeshifter totems are real player mirrors , so if you got me you'd be facing 20k+ hey I had some with 40k+ troops in them , so sum it up : The Stronger a player the system rates you the stronger the players are you are put up against.Carolyn1 (AU1) said:Should all 5 totems have 6 to 9k each to attack? Or is this a legendary level thing?
Phoenix is not impressed with the event...very little reward, troops not returning when suppose to in normal mode and it is so very long for the lower levelled members to send their attacks and then wait for their troops to return home. Thus, not allowing them to attack Sams during the event.
We had 9 players in the top 50 on the first day, but today most have decided not to continue participating in the event. It is boring, full of bugs and has no rewards worth collecting. We are going to concentrate on Sams.
@KKP2112 (AU1)
No , that is all correct you cannot turn on/off bonuses while attacks are on their way.
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mircea vanderdi (INT1) [INT1]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 8:16 a.m.
why tools not return back in normal mode?? it`s a bug? fix it please,thanks!!
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Herveus (AU1) [AU1]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 8:18 a.m.
Only the unused ones do return and that is not a bug.mircea vanderdi (INT1) said:why tools not return back in normal mode?? it`s a bug? fix it please,thanks!!
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mircea vanderdi (INT1) [INT1]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 8:39 a.m.
then im gonna hit them with 35 soliders 
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PowerfullyTiger (IN1) [None]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 8:58 a.m.
Are there equipment sets too for this ???BM ang1243 said:@Muffins 2.0 (ASIA1)Muffins 2.0 (ASIA1) said:You lose tools on normal mode, first wave of tools is lost on normal mode. - That's a bug and is not on your list.
In test server, all the tools that were used on attack (normal mode) returned (same numbers of tools) to main castle. Also when you get attacked by a shape castle, it shows as a castellan (the attacker) not a commander. In test server there was no problem like this.
Why in real servers run bugs and in test server event has no problems.
Again sistem shows how fake they are. Run an event that has problems (FOR 12 days) and they know that the event has problems.
Whats the point of Hard Mode even, you lose tools on normal mode if you get wiped by defender, and you lose like all tools, and nothing returns back.
This event is made just to eat players tools/feathers and nothing else.
You are meant to lose tools in normal mode when attacking.@Bear Grills (US1)Bear Grills (US1) said:Why do we have a test server if you do trial runs of half-finished events on the actual servers anyways?
I agree - we shouldn't have a test server as it is setup right now....Hey @Tanzim1 (INT1)Tanzim1 (INT1) said:https://prnt.sc/hnzcx3
When i click these buttons the usual pop up doesnt pop
i had to pull the arrow from inventory to add some more
That looks like a local issue - try clearing your cache and cookies.@LordAdi (IN1)LordAdi (IN1) said:Are you supposed to loose anything in defence ?
http://prntscr.com/ho00tt
This is one of the battle reports
he lost his sols in defence which is not stated in the event info
it says defenders doesnt loose sols or tools in a defence attack.
http://prntscr.com/ho01ya
thats what it says
please check and reply if anyone else countered this bug.
It will appear as a normal battle with normal losses in the battle report, etc. but the defender won't actually lose anything.@BeaAdventurer (US1)BeaAdventurer (US1) said:Sadly, the glory decay issue doesn't appear to be corrected. And, as comments weren't included as an option in the "Hotfix" thread... there's no place to advise GGE. Honestly, thats one major major BUG.
The Glory decay bug should have been fixed for last night's glory decay - which was 4 hours and 15 mins after your post - let me know if you still don't think it has been fixed@Inspector (AU1) @FabulousMUSHY (AU1)Inspector (AU1) said:I attacked the shapeshifters . The shapeshifter totems changed after midnight and my attackers somehow returned to my main castle and I lost most my attackers and defenders due to food starvation because they got returned to my main castle.
This is one of the known issues mentioned in the original post....@"Madara. (INT1)"Madara. (INT1) said:@BM ang1243 this is new update or a bug
http://prntscr.com/ho2zpb
http://prntscr.com/ho2zv8
this start to piss me off so please can i have an anser ?
This is one of the bugs mentioned in the original post on this thread.@Shadow fighter (IN1)shadow fighter (IN1) said:https://prnt.sc/ho5axw
someone pls fix this
i attacked everyone of shoplifter and and one of my attack is not included
Thanks for reporting this issue - I've passed it onto our QA team.@dusty9 (GB1)dusty9 (GB1) said:attacked while in protection lost my defenders please replace
You won't have actually lost these troops - it just shows up like that in the battle report.
p.s. @Everyone just a couple of things....
Most of these bugs mentioned here were only discovered after launching the event on the live servers, we already found lots of bugs and repaired them from 1) The internal testing servers 2) The Open Beta Server 3) The early release live server (PL1)
With such a big new event like this - it's impossible to find all of the bugs internally before going live - which is why we haven't released things like the equipment - this is really a trial run - however AFAIK you'll be able to save all your insignias and charms for when the Equipment is available - so that's what I'm doing at least ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I have moved all comments which aren't related to bugs/issues to the feedback thread...
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Real Sheru (ASIA1) [None]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 9:37 a.m.
Hey is this trial not for level 30's???and by the way is the real event atleast for 30's?BM ang1243 said:Hey everyone,
The Shapeshifter event starting today is designed to be a trial run of the event - we really want to get the event right for as many people as possible - so we want your feedback! Some things won't be available in the first event, for example Equipment won't be possible to purchase in the shop - this is because the pricing is still being reviewed along with the stats.
We really want to know what you think of the event let us know below - it will start in just under half an hour at 11.30 CET
Thanks,
Angus
before you posted its for above 30 level !
lol i left my before 70level account done a bad thing!
ok tell weather its available for 30 or not?
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TurtleHunter (AU1) [AU1]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 11:08 a.m.
It is once again an event targetted at ruby buyers. Humble small time buyers like myself need to use good tools to attack these things for what? what is the point of attacking something such as a shapeshifter for such pathetic rewards and huge use of tools. please, if your going to stick with this tools need to avoid being used and troops should be killed rather than the other way around. troops can be recruited very quickly but ruby tools cannot be replaced for less than 20k rubies for each hit. seriously, think about other people not just your big buyers. even the small time ones make a difference.
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Warlord117Gamer (US1) [US1]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 12:09 p.m.
Morning Ang1243, sent out 2 attacks, only one attack sent out a report, the other NOTHInG! Is this a bug? Did get all my troops back from both attacks and reading up on the forum knew they would come back to main, so this goes along with current bugs. Looking forward to solving the mystery.BM ang1243 said:Hey everyone,
The Shapeshifter event starting today is designed to be a trial run of the event - we really want to get the event right for as many people as possible - so we want your feedback! Some things won't be available in the first event, for example Equipment won't be possible to purchase in the shop - this is because the pricing is still being reviewed along with the stats.
We really want to know what you think of the event let us know below - it will start in just under half an hour at 11.30 CET
Thanks,
Angus
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Shares (AU1) [AU1]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 12:17 p.m.
im guessing only 1 army returned from op to mc..this happened to me. You got no report because that army was caught up in rollover and didnt fight..Warlord117Gamer (US1) said:Morning Ang1243, sent out 2 attacks, only one attack sent out a report, the other NOTHInG! Is this a bug? Did get all my troops back from both attacks and reading up on the forum knew they would come back to main, so this goes along with current bugs. Looking forward to solving the mystery.BM ang1243 said:Hey everyone,
The Shapeshifter event starting today is designed to be a trial run of the event - we really want to get the event right for as many people as possible - so we want your feedback! Some things won't be available in the first event, for example Equipment won't be possible to purchase in the shop - this is because the pricing is still being reviewed along with the stats.
We really want to know what you think of the event let us know below - it will start in just under half an hour at 11.30 CET
Thanks,
Angus
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Philt123 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 1:36 p.m.
ok so i often have little to say great to say about gge, but I was genuinly excited as I am with all new events about the possibilities, of this event or any new event for that matter, for me something different, new content is good.
But I am honestly not sure where to start with this one, i defended one incoming and sent out one attack, and there is nothing and i mean nothing in the game to hook me into bothering sending more, or defending.
I am genuinly struggling to see the point at all, maybe I am missing something and gge could explain to me what it is about the event thats going to hook players in.
The only thing I want to change about this event right now is that the horn colour changed to say green, so i know that i can then totally ignore the event.
I am actually very dissapointed as I love pvp I have spent a very long time building my account so I am pretty strong in both defending and attacking. I was looking forward to being able to pit myself up againt other stron Pvp ers.
From what i can see this event fails on almost every level
1) the lumping together of all troops is a joke, no pvp player thinks like that, the diff between hitting att and def troops is VAST this is a big mistake and takes it too far away from thesupposed roots of the game,
2) scoring system is a joke, there is not enough difference between a player sending out 32 free recruited troops with no tools and a crap comm and a player sending out a fully tooled horror army on hard mode with a monster comm. the diff between if you consider the diff between those 2 attaacks on a real player or even an fi castle, you would be talking say 1 glory vs say 100,000 glory (with no banners) but if you banner it its over a million. so somewhere between 100,000 and a million times different in real PVP yet in this event you end up with the same 4 green tokens, and get say 200 purple instead of say 800. so either no diff or 4 times diff, you need to be lookign at hundreds of thousands of diff!!! Get the scoring wrong the event is nothing.
3) I cant see any point or recognition you get for defending. so when i see the horn i simply ignore it in fact its quickly become an annoyance. i dont bother removing att troops i dont bother setting defenses I simply dont bother reacting at all. without engagement of your defenders the game becomes totally pointless
4) I cant see any point in attacking, I slightly covered it above but when already you have players senting zero tooled suicide attacks out or simply sending out 32 troops you know u got it way wrong.
5) its simply not engaging where is the hook? there needs to be a real time scoring system, if i hit an FI castle i can see where i am instantly on the leader board, I know who my competition is what i need to do so even if you sort the scoring so its reflective of skill and effort, even if you somehow add somethign to it to make defenders want to defend, you still got a flop as without a real time scoring system, like all other events then u failed, its not engaging.
6) The rewards, player play PVE for the rewards, and the competition of pitting themselves against other players, in this event there is no competition see point 5, and there are no rewards. remotly worth playing for, never mind actually worth risking any of my tools / troops for, hell its not even worth my time and effort playing the game on easy mode, for free.
7) its too slow, spying takes too long, only 5 castles a day is simply never gonna keep players engaged. assuming you fix the rest and get players interested you will fall down on this part.
8) real Pvp is all about risk vs reward, simply put this event there is non.
I can kinda see where you were aiming at here, but If i were in your shoes you missed on so many levels its not funny. I guess you are gonna have to go through each failed area and try to put it right one by one to see if there is any future in this event, but right now its a lemon. as it stands right now I dont see how you can turn this into a winner.
Please prove me wrong and make a silk purse out of a sows ear. There is nothing more that i would love in this game for there to be some sort of Pvp based good event. But you gonna have your work cut out, as a few tweaks here and there aint gonna cut it it need a fundiamental ground up re work.
But I am honestly not sure where to start with this one, i defended one incoming and sent out one attack, and there is nothing and i mean nothing in the game to hook me into bothering sending more, or defending.
I am genuinly struggling to see the point at all, maybe I am missing something and gge could explain to me what it is about the event thats going to hook players in.
The only thing I want to change about this event right now is that the horn colour changed to say green, so i know that i can then totally ignore the event.
I am actually very dissapointed as I love pvp I have spent a very long time building my account so I am pretty strong in both defending and attacking. I was looking forward to being able to pit myself up againt other stron Pvp ers.
From what i can see this event fails on almost every level
1) the lumping together of all troops is a joke, no pvp player thinks like that, the diff between hitting att and def troops is VAST this is a big mistake and takes it too far away from thesupposed roots of the game,
2) scoring system is a joke, there is not enough difference between a player sending out 32 free recruited troops with no tools and a crap comm and a player sending out a fully tooled horror army on hard mode with a monster comm. the diff between if you consider the diff between those 2 attaacks on a real player or even an fi castle, you would be talking say 1 glory vs say 100,000 glory (with no banners) but if you banner it its over a million. so somewhere between 100,000 and a million times different in real PVP yet in this event you end up with the same 4 green tokens, and get say 200 purple instead of say 800. so either no diff or 4 times diff, you need to be lookign at hundreds of thousands of diff!!! Get the scoring wrong the event is nothing.
3) I cant see any point or recognition you get for defending. so when i see the horn i simply ignore it in fact its quickly become an annoyance. i dont bother removing att troops i dont bother setting defenses I simply dont bother reacting at all. without engagement of your defenders the game becomes totally pointless
4) I cant see any point in attacking, I slightly covered it above but when already you have players senting zero tooled suicide attacks out or simply sending out 32 troops you know u got it way wrong.
5) its simply not engaging where is the hook? there needs to be a real time scoring system, if i hit an FI castle i can see where i am instantly on the leader board, I know who my competition is what i need to do so even if you sort the scoring so its reflective of skill and effort, even if you somehow add somethign to it to make defenders want to defend, you still got a flop as without a real time scoring system, like all other events then u failed, its not engaging.
6) The rewards, player play PVE for the rewards, and the competition of pitting themselves against other players, in this event there is no competition see point 5, and there are no rewards. remotly worth playing for, never mind actually worth risking any of my tools / troops for, hell its not even worth my time and effort playing the game on easy mode, for free.
7) its too slow, spying takes too long, only 5 castles a day is simply never gonna keep players engaged. assuming you fix the rest and get players interested you will fall down on this part.
8) real Pvp is all about risk vs reward, simply put this event there is non.
I can kinda see where you were aiming at here, but If i were in your shoes you missed on so many levels its not funny. I guess you are gonna have to go through each failed area and try to put it right one by one to see if there is any future in this event, but right now its a lemon. as it stands right now I dont see how you can turn this into a winner.
Please prove me wrong and make a silk purse out of a sows ear. There is nothing more that i would love in this game for there to be some sort of Pvp based good event. But you gonna have your work cut out, as a few tweaks here and there aint gonna cut it it need a fundiamental ground up re work.
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neuterable (US1) [US1]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 1:47 p.m.
Without PVP Bonuses working, this event can not be seriously evaluated.
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Friedrich IV (US1) [None]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 3:12 p.m.
same I just let my limes do the work for mePhilt123 (GB1) said:ok so i often have little to say great to say about gge, but I was genuinly excited as I am with all new events about the possibilities, of this event or any new event for that matter, for me something different, new content is good.
But I am honestly not sure where to start with this one, i defended one incoming and sent out one attack, and there is nothing and i mean nothing in the game to hook me into bothering sending more, or defending.
I am genuinly struggling to see the point at all, maybe I am missing something and gge could explain to me what it is about the event thats going to hook players in.
The only thing I want to change about this event right now is that the horn colour changed to say green, so i know that i can then totally ignore the event.
I am actually very dissapointed as I love pvp I have spent a very long time building my account so I am pretty strong in both defending and attacking. I was looking forward to being able to pit myself up againt other stron Pvp ers.
From what i can see this event fails on almost every level
1) the lumping together of all troops is a joke, no pvp player thinks like that, the diff between hitting att and def troops is VAST this is a big mistake and takes it too far away from thesupposed roots of the game,
2) scoring system is a joke, there is not enough difference between a player sending out 32 free recruited troops with no tools and a crap comm and a player sending out a fully tooled horror army on hard mode with a monster comm. the diff between if you consider the diff between those 2 attaacks on a real player or even an fi castle, you would be talking say 1 glory vs say 100,000 glory (with no banners) but if you banner it its over a million. so somewhere between 100,000 and a million times different in real PVP yet in this event you end up with the same 4 green tokens, and get say 200 purple instead of say 800. so either no diff or 4 times diff, you need to be lookign at hundreds of thousands of diff!!! Get the scoring wrong the event is nothing.
3) I cant see any point or recognition you get for defending. so when i see the horn i simply ignore it in fact its quickly become an annoyance. i dont bother removing att troops i dont bother setting defenses I simply dont bother reacting at all. without engagement of your defenders the game becomes totally pointless
4) I cant see any point in attacking, I slightly covered it above but when already you have players senting zero tooled suicide attacks out or simply sending out 32 troops you know u got it way wrong.
5) its simply not engaging where is the hook? there needs to be a real time scoring system, if i hit an FI castle i can see where i am instantly on the leader board, I know who my competition is what i need to do so even if you sort the scoring so its reflective of skill and effort, even if you somehow add somethign to it to make defenders want to defend, you still got a flop as without a real time scoring system, like all other events then u failed, its not engaging.
6) The rewards, player play PVE for the rewards, and the competition of pitting themselves against other players, in this event there is no competition see point 5, and there are no rewards. remotly worth playing for, never mind actually worth risking any of my tools / troops for, hell its not even worth my time and effort playing the game on easy mode, for free.
7) its too slow, spying takes too long, only 5 castles a day is simply never gonna keep players engaged. assuming you fix the rest and get players interested you will fall down on this part.
8) real Pvp is all about risk vs reward, simply put this event there is non.
I can kinda see where you were aiming at here, but If i were in your shoes you missed on so many levels its not funny. I guess you are gonna have to go through each failed area and try to put it right one by one to see if there is any future in this event, but right now its a lemon. as it stands right now I dont see how you can turn this into a winner.
Please prove me wrong and make a silk purse out of a sows ear. There is nothing more that i would love in this game for there to be some sort of Pvp based good event. But you gonna have your work cut out, as a few tweaks here and there aint gonna cut it it need a fundiamental ground up re work.
dont send attacks, loot stuff that actually benefits me and let my limes, eagle cast and 10k d at main hold them off
which seems to be what most other people are doing, because every time I spy a shapeshifter its 10k d behind a godcast and limes...... lol
at least I'm not being a dick and toolburning everyone too, I could switch flanks on the def dodgers but I could honestly care less
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stix4543 (US1) [US1]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 5:43 p.m.
attacks take far to long
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David Noble (US1) [None]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 5:58 p.m.
They are supposed to fix this and are aware as well, but unfortunately I think that they may not make any attempt to fix this until after the trial run has ended.neuterable (US1) said:Without PVP Bonuses working, this event can not be seriously evaluated.
It would also seem like a lot of people are complaining about the rewards as well who do not appreciate them even with the fine sands, bricks, common bags, and decorations with high might points including 230 po and also the 280 po if the top players have no need for the 230 po decorations. Equipment is supposed to come out later anyway and so I do not see any point of complaining about the rewards, unless if their is not enough variety to satisfy players the way it is now or not enough variety even with the commander sets that will be added later. I do not know about everyone else, but I always have a lot less fine sand than everything else and so being able to get it without having spend rubies could be very useful.
Like I have mentioned before they could also add more variety by adding gold coins, gems, build items, and/or possibly at least some tools and/or ruby troops to this new event as well that could be purchased from the shop. Now there may need to be limitations for the maximum level you can buy a build item with from the shop like "normal" rare build items being the limit for charms and a level 7 base food being the limit for insignias that would both cost more to buy than the most expensive bags, but just a thought of possibly adding build items to the shop as well and not just the bags, equipment, and decorations only. (Normal build items or the base wood and stone that are epic or legendary would not be available in the shop mainly because of the bags. The only exception to this could be the base food since they can not be purchased with any bags which is why they would cost insignias to get instead of charms.)
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dreamtree (US1) [US1]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 7:24 p.m.
How can I judge this event if I don't have commander PvP bonuses?
We need tools specific to the shapeshifters like we have tools specific to invaders/bloodcrows.
invader ladder, invader ram and invader mask make it easier.
Shape shapeshifter versions would help a lot.
Reduce the distance between shapeshifter castles and ours.
We need tools specific to the shapeshifters like we have tools specific to invaders/bloodcrows.
invader ladder, invader ram and invader mask make it easier.
Shape shapeshifter versions would help a lot.
Reduce the distance between shapeshifter castles and ours.
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UD1 (INT1) [INT1]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 8:18 p.m.
I see no reason for the time delay ,whilst attacking or defending SHAPESHIFTER EVENT . I am sure that most us us would like to get this over and done with in the shortest time possible.
But if you could attack more than i can understand why , it is like a cooldown in reverse just takes ages to hit if you use coins .
If this event is to teach us about attacking and defending , then i guess this event should be aim at level 20 to 60 maybe , it do not teach legendary players much , but when you get a castlen on steroids and even armour tools cant break down wall , the only things this teaches us is not to waste tools , just send 32 soldiers at it .
And lets face it this is a ruby whale event , where you can bye the best soldiers and unlimited tools , but it is the first time the rewards are so poor , no armour to win to make a com fit for this event.
So ll in all changes need to be made in every part of this Event , or just call it a TRAINING EVENT for low level players
But please do not try to fool us with the Kings New Clothes
But if you could attack more than i can understand why , it is like a cooldown in reverse just takes ages to hit if you use coins .
If this event is to teach us about attacking and defending , then i guess this event should be aim at level 20 to 60 maybe , it do not teach legendary players much , but when you get a castlen on steroids and even armour tools cant break down wall , the only things this teaches us is not to waste tools , just send 32 soldiers at it .
And lets face it this is a ruby whale event , where you can bye the best soldiers and unlimited tools , but it is the first time the rewards are so poor , no armour to win to make a com fit for this event.
So ll in all changes need to be made in every part of this Event , or just call it a TRAINING EVENT for low level players
But please do not try to fool us with the Kings New Clothes
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TurtleHunter (AU1) [AU1]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 10:36 p.m.
to be fair, these shapeshitters are not working out for anyone as they provide absolutely no motivation to play it at all.
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jimmyg123 (US1) [None]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 10:54 p.m.
YUCK Events continue to worsen and still can't stand the fact several events run at once which started long ago. This game was way mote fun with more player versus player and less event crud. The alliance tourney should come back and have the cheating stopped somehow( planned hits etc)Those who whine about ply vs ply shouldn't be in a war game imho.
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neuterable (US1) [US1]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 11:35 p.m.
Invaders specific t001s, would perhaps prevent the wasting of real t001s, but in an of themselves they represent little advantage. The lack of PVP bonuses however, that is the killer. If they are not NPCs, and they are not PVP, then you might as well just forget the commander.dreamtree (US1) said:How can I judge this event if I don't have commander PvP bonuses?
We need tools specific to the shapeshifters like we have tools specific to invaders/bloodcrows.
invader ladder, invader ram and invader mask make it easier.
Shape shapeshifter versions would help a lot.
Reduce the distance between shapeshifter castles and ours.
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neuterable (US1) [US1]
:: Dec. 17, 2017, 11:37 p.m.
David Noble (US1) said:
Like I have mentioned before they could also add more variety by adding gold coins, gems, build items...
Characteristically and thematically, this event was made for decorative build items.