Forum: empire-en

Board: [816] News from the world of Empire

Topic: [345151] [Feedback needed] Shapeshifter Trial Run

[4880811] We_Ner (US1) [None] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 11:45 a.m.

Muffins 2.0 (ASIA1) said:

Umm idk if this is intended, but i landed  a hit with 246 tools, and in return time i got 164 tools. Not 246.
So we lose tools in attack. (ANd i was not in hard mode)
Another hit with 65 tools, just to test it. And i had 51

You lose the tools used on the wall in the battle not the unused ones

[4880814] UD1 (INT1) [INT1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 11:47 a.m.

Okay did hardcore attack with Ivory Queen loss all soldiers and tools , did not get the effect of commander over and out of this fiasco , life to short to mess with the crap , back to wasting my time agains fori or towers .

All i wish i could go back one hour and listen to players Do not do Hardcore you will lose army 

[4880829] Morentz (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 11:53 a.m.

kashi (US1) said:

RE: Morentz

a) Don't think your post belongs in this thread.

b) It's easy to hit somebody who is sleeping and where there is not enough time to wake them up to defend properly. Not everybody cheats with password-sharing like your alliance does.

Your post has a very high sodium content.

Talk about account sharing and multi-accounts.... lololol

Not to mention - how did Donaldo lose WOK to Tempus?

Thats right, because you all account shared and someone unhappy with your leadership logged into his account and passed WOK to Tempus.

[4880834] Kage (ASIA1) [ASIA1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 11:57 a.m.

Yea you lose tools on the first wave of the attack.
Well, then for what is hard mode ? 
Duck the event then. Someone said, better hit npc.
I agree with him.

[4880840] WindowLicker (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 11:58 a.m.

Well, this event is already ruined. Cool

[4880842] sax (NL1) [NL1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 11:59 a.m.

Does the hardcore settings apply to all the attacks that are running at that time?
So if one set of troops is on its way, not in hardcore mode, and a second set of troops is being sent away to another camp and hardcore is being activated, does that affect the first troop as well that is still running??
If so, you can influence detection time and travel time by changing settings just b4 arrival.
And maybe one attack you dont't want to play hardcore while while you do with an other at the same time...

[4880844] UD1 (INT1) [INT1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, noon

I may be wrong but this shapeshifter event is going to be a disaster , this is one of those times you need a off on button .

and to think i complain about fori castles ,shame on me

[4880851] UD1 (INT1) [INT1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 12:05 p.m.

sax (NL1) said:

Does the hardcore settings apply to all the attacks that are running at that time?
So if one set of troops is on its way, not in hardcore mode, and a second set of troops is being sent away to another camp and hardcore is being activated, does that affect the first troop as well that is still running??
If so, you can influence detection time and travel time by changing settings just b4 arrival.
And maybe one attack you dont't want to play hardcore while while you do with an other at the same time...

once your in hardcore mode and you want to hit another take it out of hardcore mode

[4880856] douwew (NL1) [NL1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 12:08 p.m.

The fori hero doenst work! 

[4880857] CBee (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 12:08 p.m.

complete waste of time if you ask me.  theres no benefit to it at all,  gge needs to get their head out of their azz before putting a known bugged event out for people to play.  could have said,  hey there are bugs so be fore warned, but noooo lets screw with them some more.  Just lovely.

[4880860] We_Ner (US1) [None] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 12:08 p.m.

well thats cool i send one attack and lose 2 flanks of tools, about 60 crow attacks worth for nothing at all. Well since i cant lose troops there is no reason to ever send tools. Unless you like losing them all for no reason.

[4880872] PowerfullyTiger (IN1) [None] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 12:11 p.m.

fc and bc commander not giving flank and cy bonus
why the hell ???

[4880877] STEVIEBEANZ (GB1) [GB1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 12:14 p.m.

it's kind of outrageous really

How bad must this have been on the test server for them to think this live version was an improvement?

You're all doing their beta testing for them, and you're paying for it with your coins, rubies, feathers, tools, troops and time. You're literally paying to help develop a game that this year went over $1billion in lifetime revenue.

Assuming that customer service have the same attitude as they did during the launch of the fraudulent khan boosting ruby tools , none of you are getting any compensation for this.

Any personal goodwill generated by that Twitch  broadcast is gone.

[4880885] PowerfullyTiger (IN1) [None] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 12:16 p.m.

Ivan is back (INT1) said:

OxO (AU1) said:

Bubble crossing moat tools not showing in the attack screen?

possibly cause it is glory moat tool 

Nope its not a glory tool it gives -15 moat only

[4880908] P_R_O2 (INT1) [None] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 12:31 p.m.

BONUSES DOESNT WORK NPC OR CASTLE LORD BONUS

[4880925] Nata (NL1) [NL1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 12:39 p.m.

If i understand right,  attacker does not loos troops and tools, but something is not right! 
 : in my print screens you kan see  that  i have lost my tools:

attack  send out :

Troops coming back home : 


Lost battle : 

[4880928] blood seeker 69 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 12:41 p.m.

BM ang1243 said:

@Everyone,

The issue with PvP specific bonuses from commanders is known about - sorry about this, but it's going to be this way throughout this trial run.

Angus

does anyone know if hero bonuses work for defense?

[4880929] We_Ner (US1) [None] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 12:42 p.m.

Do NOT tool your attacks, you will lose most all of your tools against casts that have impossible amounts on the wall. You will not lose any troops if you send untooled and will get very close to the same gem things if you win or lose. Send down undefended no tools and hope they are offline is the only way you dont screw yourself out of tons of tools. Kind of kills the whole angle of learning defense. Not gonna be learning anything at the expense of my shield walls!! Calculator doesn't lie GGE these arent real wall amounts of actual players. I had 3 nechras on first set and all had around 800 troops on the wall with nothing but default wall bonus showing. I know all 5 of my totems arent 550 level defense hall players, which even still wouldn't come close to these amounts. Now when attacking them i forgot to realize im gonna lose almost all my tools when defended against by these monster impossible walls. In 30 mins i was stripped of over 1k armorer tools on normal mode. Ive never lost this many tools in weeks of real war. This is blatant tool theft for absolutely no reward. Im so pissed off im shaking. I want all my tools back this is utter nonsense! While were at it do NOT send defense to your main and waste all the coins transfering to defend cause it doesnt matter the outcome. Your only screwing yourself doing that as well. untooled attacks, no self support or dont play are only way to win at this without costing you tools and coins.

[4880943] Batten (GB1) [GB1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 12:49 p.m.

For all of the issues I like it to be honest.  The not knowing which bits work adds an element of risk.  A bit of uncertainty adds a bit of excitement.  I understand the issues but we were told this was a development that wasn't complete and were asked to feed back.  Everyone is effected so I take the view play it learn and try and enjoy it.  It could actually be pretty good given a chance.  I've already learnt I need to improve relative to players at my level so you can get something from it.  We know the bonuses don't work so we just have to work round and do the best we can.  interesting to see which players and alliances can cope when things don't work the way they expect and adapt to uncertainty best.  A good test.  

[4880945] blood seeker 69 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 12:50 p.m.

We_Ner (US1) said:

Do NOT tool your attacks, you will lose most all of your tools against casts that have impossible amounts on the wall. You will not lose any troops if you send untooled and will get very close to the same gem things if you win or lose. Send down undefended no tools and hope they are offline is the only way you dont screw yourself out of tons of tools. Kind of kills the whole angle of learning defense. Not gonna be learning anything at the expense of my shield walls!! Calculator doesn't lie GGE these arent real wall amounts of actual players. I had 3 nechras on first set and all had around 800 troops on the wall with nothing but default wall bonus showing. I know all 5 of my totems arent 550 level defense hall players, which even still wouldn't come close to these amounts. Now when attacking them i forgot to realize im gonna lose almost all my tools when defended against by these monster impossible walls. In 30 mins i was stripped of over 1k armorer tools on normal mode. Ive never lost this many tools in weeks of real war. This is blatant tool theft for absolutely no reward. Im so pissed off im shaking. I want all my tools back this is utter nonsense! While were at it do NOT send defense to your main and waste all the coins transfering to defend cause it doesnt matter the outcome. Your only screwing yourself doing that as well. untooled attacks, no self support or dont play are only way to win at this without costing you tools and coins.

Could they have calculated the power conversion of vet flame/composite defenders incorrectly? noticed that the base line of strength is that of KG defenders...... many other units are much stronger than those... so thus is what is making a higher number of troops on the wall of the SS totems......