Forum: empire-en
Board: [816] News from the world of Empire
Topic: [345151] [Feedback needed] Shapeshifter Trial Run
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EU.Street_Dog (INT2) [INT2]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 12:51 p.m.
i like it very good new event but dont forget old events as well . thanks
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sardela (GR1) [None]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 1 p.m.
I don't like it!
i spend a lot of expensive tools for realy poor shop!
there is no fun if you spend so much but you get so few rewards.
i spend a lot of expensive tools for realy poor shop!
there is no fun if you spend so much but you get so few rewards.
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We_Ner (US1) [None]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 1 p.m.
Maybe but its still broken to have no pvp bonuses or set bonuses or hero applied to your commander and try to take 800 troop flanks out. You will lose a huge amount of tools, screwing yourself over big time and score 1 or 2 blue gems more than you get if you sent untooled and lose attack also. Either way you lose and get all troops back. I see no reason to lose my tools during the attack if im getting 4 instead of 6 gems per hit. The number in glory slot is just ranking and isnt store currency....blood seeker 69 (US1) said:Could they have calculated the power conversion of vet flame/composite defenders incorrectly? noticed that the base line of strength is that of KG defenders...... many other units are much stronger than those... so thus is what is making a higher number of troops on the wall of the SS totems......
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UD1 (INT1) [INT1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 1:04 p.m.
If it looks like a lemom , and taste like a lemon , and stings like a lemon { ITS A LEMON }
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We_Ner (US1) [None]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 1:19 p.m.
were getting same 4 gems for the store here by sending 32 troops with no tools at these totems, just lower ranking points..... So broken
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Lady Nym (US1) [US1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 1:24 p.m.
Not worth the trouble. Rather hit those useless BCs at least i get glory and resources.
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Lady Nym (US1) [US1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 1:33 p.m.
Your alliance can't help against them, but since you don't lose anything as a defender it doesn't matter much.ThomasKruse (SKN1) said:Not good
My son, level 70, was just hit by a very strong attack.
1600 attackers and a very good commander 90/90 and almost max for wall, moat etc.
No warning for ally, blue horn, so no help
Was they intended to attack? and same days as Bloodcraw? This sucks!
Useless event.
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We_Ner (US1) [None]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 1:36 p.m.
he doesnt know what defender doesnt lose anything means haha
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oWarHero (GB1) [GB1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 1:37 p.m.
I think the event has potential, but needs several changes as mentioned in previous comments.
Only thing I'm curious about, is if we will get any form of compo for the needless additional tools we're using where the castles are neither NPC or PvP? I have castles with 6k+ in the CY, and 600 on the wall. The fact that bonuses aren't working correctly means these types of target are nigh on unbeatable, which is fine - and different/realistic - but if bonuses were working correctly then I might be able to break these flanks more quickly, if at all, saving myself a wave or more of tools; or I would have more chance of winning the CY giving me better points for rankings.
Only thing I'm curious about, is if we will get any form of compo for the needless additional tools we're using where the castles are neither NPC or PvP? I have castles with 6k+ in the CY, and 600 on the wall. The fact that bonuses aren't working correctly means these types of target are nigh on unbeatable, which is fine - and different/realistic - but if bonuses were working correctly then I might be able to break these flanks more quickly, if at all, saving myself a wave or more of tools; or I would have more chance of winning the CY giving me better points for rankings.
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Lord Necromaner (LT1) [None]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 1:40 p.m.
Shitty hardcore 
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douwew (NL1) [NL1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 1:42 p.m.
@oWarHero (GB1) ]
What are you talking about? A 6k you can easily beat
http://prntscr.com/hnw0ba
This was with normal mode....
But your right it needs some changes
What are you talking about? A 6k you can easily beat
http://prntscr.com/hnw0ba
This was with normal mode....
But your right it needs some changes
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douwew (NL1) [NL1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 1:42 p.m.
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Diavolo (US1) [US1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 1:44 p.m.
Well said! Excellent critique.Morentz (US1) said:Feedback of event:
1) Castle Lord bonuses/attributes don't apply to hits... don't even get my +30% CY with Highlander set bonus.
2) Travel time takes ages, and I don't fancy wasting feathers on these fake PVP hits. If the defender doesn't lose troops/get burned, then why not make travel time much shorter? Now my troops are busy for 53min, meaning I can't do other things - like hit FLs or real players with them.
3) So you need 10x 1000+ point hits just to buy 1 material sack? Even if you were using feathers (25min travel time with 80% hall speed+level 10 premium speed), that would take 4hrs+ just to earn enough points for 1x material sack - provided you were getting 1000+ point hits.
^Someone posted that in Skype. So to wipe 4.2k troops, you only earn 662 points. I wonder how much you need to wipe to make a 1000+ point hit in order to earn 6 shapeshifter charms.
4) Hardcore mode is too much risk, for not much reward. Attacker loses troops/tools, but the multiplier bonuses hardly give much more points.
In summary:
- plagued with equipment statistic/set bonus glitches.
- overly time-consuming
- little reward
- hardcore mode has no incentiveWays to improve:
1) Either make it so when an Attacker sends a hit - it uses up "imaginary troops" - i.e. you still have those troops in your castle to do other stuff with (just like the Defender's troops get converted into Shapeshifter Sharpshooter and Shapeshifter Legionnaires).
OR
Make travel time much shorter. This doesn't disadvantage the Defender, as the Defender doesn't lose troops/tools/receives fires if he loses. Whereas it inconveniences the Attacker, as troops become used up preventing doing other things with them, and travel time is way too long.
2) Make Hardcore mode more appealing - either make it so you don't lose troops/tools by attacking, or provide greater rewards.
3) Fix the bugs/glitches with castle lord equipment bonuses not being applied.
Also, meh deco in first reward set, nice deco in second. The might points given is the same for each, which is strange.
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dwaasje (NL1) [NL1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 1:54 p.m.
The rewards are crape, attacking takes to much time.
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oWarHero (GB1) [GB1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 1:55 p.m.
Yes, *some* 6k castles are easily beaten, but when your flanks are reduced due to the bonuses not working properly, and cy being weakened too; if the defender is online it might be a much closer fight than it needs to be.douwew (NL1) said:@oWarHero (GB1) ]
What are you talking about? A 6k you can easily beat
http://prntscr.com/hnw0ba
This was with normal mode....
But your right it needs some changes
I have a look item on my bloodcrow comm and the flanks are still only 92. The cy is 85 instead of 125. So on some of my targets (reflecting others of 1.1M+ PP), the wall is unbreakable, and they will have a decent (~35cy) strength on their cast also. Where my army size is reduced due to the bonuses not working correctly, 1938 troops (given a failed wall break) in the cy will not always easily wipe 6k.
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king24 (IN1) [IN1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 2:03 p.m.
http://prntscr.com/hnwbr0
there are some glitches though .
It shows more defenders killed than the number of defenders present.
there are some glitches though .
It shows more defenders killed than the number of defenders present.
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Anshal_ (IN1) [IN1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 2:11 p.m.
The event seems OK!
its only bcoz of tthe high reward price and not understanding how actually this event works?;P
its only bcoz of tthe high reward price and not understanding how actually this event works?;P
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Herveus (AU1) [AU1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 2:15 p.m.
Points are stupid , went full hard-core mode killed 2 and got 570 points seeing as I know 3 of my targetes if I planned the attack full hardcore into 20k d and no casts I'd get a fk ton of points and what a surprise excaclty what I said will happen die to castellan on small and mid sized servers.
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ossi78 (SKN1) [SKN1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 2:20 p.m.
dam, so meny mistake, you made whit this, event, loosing tools in the normaly mode, the legend hall, is not working
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STEVIEBEANZ (GB1) [GB1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 2:26 p.m.
yep Herv, I worked out who one of my shapeshifters is from the cast
Is it actually against the t&cs to arrange a hit with someone? i.e. i tell em to stick 10k men in there and take cast and tools off and then do the reverse for them for their hit?
Is it actually against the t&cs to arrange a hit with someone? i.e. i tell em to stick 10k men in there and take cast and tools off and then do the reverse for them for their hit?