Forum: empire-en
Board: [816] News from the world of Empire
Topic: [345151] [Feedback needed] Shapeshifter Trial Run
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Batten (GB1) [GB1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 2:27 p.m.
I have been defending (in theory) having self supported and the number of points I've given up has varied a lot. I won one lost 6000K troops and gave up 800 pts that makes sense. I then defended an attack by a single wolf and gave up 200 points. Realistically if you are going to lose I can see what players are saying about not defending being a better strategy. I think maybe the allocation of points needs to be better demarcated. I appreciate it's probably not manageable within the architecture now but from a statistical point of view knowing where I rank defensively would be more interesting to see just in terms of working out how good my defensive strategy is relatively. I have castles with over 8K defence to try and take down so probably going to be a bit beyond me but useful in terms of trying to solve the puzzle. Essentially these castles mean I kill less so score less so realistically 0-499 range I'd have thought. Tough for top ten guys I'd have thought as presumably all their castles look like that.
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UD1 (INT1) [INT1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 2:31 p.m.
This Event is nothing else but a tool burner , there is no clear clarity to this event , but just to make you buy tool , i rather lose tool and troops in fori because you can see your rewards.
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kampo (US1) [US1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 2:31 p.m.
The prizes don't even make this new event worth my time , building sacks really , I will pass on this dumb update . Sure put in a lot of work for an event that's not running correct. But you want us to spend our money , so you can figure out the problems .
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Gellomack (US1) [None]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 2:37 p.m.
Should I be using the expensive -15 moat reduction armorer tools?
I hate using those...
But if I use them, will I lose them? I like to save them for real PvP. But since these are real players and not FLs I can`t just put 1 troop in the first wave and call it a day LOL.
Bottom Line: Will I lose tools I send out that are used in the attack?
I hate using those...
But if I use them, will I lose them? I like to save them for real PvP. But since these are real players and not FLs I can`t just put 1 troop in the first wave and call it a day LOL.
Bottom Line: Will I lose tools I send out that are used in the attack?
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Herveus (AU1) [AU1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 2:40 p.m.
STEVIEBEANZ (GB1) said:yep Herv, I worked out who one of my shapeshifters is from the cast
Is it actually against the t&cs to arrange a hit with someone? i.e. i tell em to stick 10k men in there and take cast and tools off and then do the reverse for them for their hit?
It is not ... So have fun getting a lot of pointsSTEVIEBEANZ (GB1) said:yep Herv, I worked out who one of my shapeshifters is from the cast
Is it actually against the t&cs to arrange a hit with someone? i.e. i tell em to stick 10k men in there and take cast and tools off and then do the reverse for them for their hit?
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Philt123 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 2:41 p.m.
Problems are
1) as suspected its not exactly very anonomous, you can work out who you hitting, as we again have arranged hit issues. you tried to ignore these issues by trying and failing to hide who is hitting.
2) I cant see the point. Seriously I have tried hard to fathom why i would spend time doing this either attacking or definding, there seems very little to gain.
3) its way too slow, 2 mins to spy a castle, and my spys are max speed. over an hour to hit a castle, with fast tools and fast comms.
4) the rewards?? really?
1) as suspected its not exactly very anonomous, you can work out who you hitting, as we again have arranged hit issues. you tried to ignore these issues by trying and failing to hide who is hitting.
2) I cant see the point. Seriously I have tried hard to fathom why i would spend time doing this either attacking or definding, there seems very little to gain.
3) its way too slow, 2 mins to spy a castle, and my spys are max speed. over an hour to hit a castle, with fast tools and fast comms.
4) the rewards?? really?
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STEVIEBEANZ (GB1) [GB1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 2:42 p.m.
cheers!Herveus (AU1) said:STEVIEBEANZ (GB1) said:yep Herv, I worked out who one of my shapeshifters is from the cast
Is it actually against the t&cs to arrange a hit with someone? i.e. i tell em to stick 10k men in there and take cast and tools off and then do the reverse for them for their hit?It is not ... So have fun getting a lot of pointsSTEVIEBEANZ (GB1) said:yep Herv, I worked out who one of my shapeshifters is from the cast
Is it actually against the t&cs to arrange a hit with someone? i.e. i tell em to stick 10k men in there and take cast and tools off and then do the reverse for them for their hit?
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immadman (US1) [None]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 2:51 p.m.
what is the point of defending if you do not get any points for beating the attack
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fdfdssadsad3333 (US1) [None]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 2:52 p.m.
Commander bonuses such as CY, Flank, etc dont work.
This is a truly terrible and stupid event. Will not waste time or money on this.
This is a truly terrible and stupid event. Will not waste time or money on this.
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STEVIEBEANZ (GB1) [GB1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 2:56 p.m.
If you are only sending 32 men, no tools then turn on all hardcore mode options to get 2.75 as many points.
ill post screenies later
ill post screenies later
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charliexyz (GB1) [GB1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 3 p.m.
it appears you don't get all the com attack bonuses why have a pvp event and not have all bonuses showing or used
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K1H (US1) [None]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 3:04 p.m.
Completely agree. Use our tools but cant buy anything with the rewards. Complete waste.BIGTtheMULLER (INT1) said:This Event is nothing else but a tool burner , there is no clear clarity to this event , but just to make you buy tool , i rather lose tool and troops in fori because you can see your rewards.
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WarlordStrider (GB1) [GB1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 3:11 p.m.
Why is it the only person that looses anything is the attacker. He looses tools but not troops. Seems to be a stupid event.
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Pete63 (GB1) [None]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 3:14 p.m.
Sorry this shapeshifter doing nothing for me bring back beri in green.
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KingLouis4 (NL1) [NL1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 3:20 p.m.
You cannot earn lots of prizes at this given point of time. If you'd read the message from GGE, they said this was a test run and that the equipment will be here soon. All points you gain now, will be transferred over to the next time the event comes around!STEVIEBEANZ (GB1) said:sorry if this is a stupid question but what prizes can you buy or win apart from a 230 PO item or big material sacks?
Greetz
King.
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eibbed62 (AU1) [AU1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 3:21 p.m.
@BM ang1243
Here is my feedback, as you requested.
I am wondering, what is the point of bothering to set a defence in this event? What do I get out of it? Nothing that I can see, so why bother? And, since attacking other players has never been on my list of reasons for playing, I believe I will give this event a big miss. Thanks for all your efforts GG, but I am just not interested.
I am confused as to why this event is going for nearly 2 weeks though, when all the other events are getting shorter and shorter. The last Beri was barely 3 days. The last nomads, only slightly longer and this current Fori around 4 days. It is getting so that I can barely get through 3/4 of the rewards these days. Especially when I have to find time for sleep, work, household duties and maintaining my RL relationships.
Thanks, but no thanks.
Debbie
Here is my feedback, as you requested.
I am wondering, what is the point of bothering to set a defence in this event? What do I get out of it? Nothing that I can see, so why bother? And, since attacking other players has never been on my list of reasons for playing, I believe I will give this event a big miss. Thanks for all your efforts GG, but I am just not interested.
I am confused as to why this event is going for nearly 2 weeks though, when all the other events are getting shorter and shorter. The last Beri was barely 3 days. The last nomads, only slightly longer and this current Fori around 4 days. It is getting so that I can barely get through 3/4 of the rewards these days. Especially when I have to find time for sleep, work, household duties and maintaining my RL relationships.
Thanks, but no thanks.
Debbie
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phil84 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 3:23 p.m.
this event is a complete and utter waste of time effort and tools for what things that are readily available with a lot less effort from the events we all ready have .over 4hours to send a hit with a com that the bonuses don't work elementary mistake typical of gge as usual act like bull in a china shop.i have sent 2 attacks lost them both got 4 tokens for 2 hours wasted wont be bothering with this event
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sax (NL1) [NL1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 3:34 p.m.
zie je pas na een dag...douwew (NL1) said:
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Malorie Knox (US1) [US1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 3:40 p.m.
Er. It's not clear to me why anyone would play this event.
Some of my teammates are getting 4 tokens for defeating 200 defenders, I took out 800 and got 3 tokens, lost over 200 troops, and didn't even get any loot to show for it.
Unless my calculator is broken, at this rate a material sack I can get for free from the nomads will cost me something like 16,000 troops.
Some of my teammates are getting 4 tokens for defeating 200 defenders, I took out 800 and got 3 tokens, lost over 200 troops, and didn't even get any loot to show for it.
Unless my calculator is broken, at this rate a material sack I can get for free from the nomads will cost me something like 16,000 troops.
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sax (NL1) [NL1]
:: Dec. 15, 2017, 3:47 p.m.
So if I understand correctly we are losing loads of tools if the defense on the other side is set up well...
So what if we all break down our defense at the moment that we are being attacked, and we make that an unofficial rule, the attacker always wins!! Nobody loses in that situation!! Attacks will be worth much more then and losses much less...
So I would say:
Just support your attacker and your attacker will support you when attacked !!
Spread the word!! Break down your defense!! And win by doing that!!
So what if we all break down our defense at the moment that we are being attacked, and we make that an unofficial rule, the attacker always wins!! Nobody loses in that situation!! Attacks will be worth much more then and losses much less...
So I would say:
Just support your attacker and your attacker will support you when attacked !!
Spread the word!! Break down your defense!! And win by doing that!!