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Board: [816] News from the world of Empire
Topic: [345151] [Feedback needed] Shapeshifter Trial Run

[4881413] UD1 (INT1) [INT1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 4:58 p.m.
I thought the trial run was done on the TEST server , now we are tool this is a trial run , so all in all we are guinea pips who lose actual money ie TOOLS to do a trial run , i so glad i was born an Idiot , because a sane and balance person would have give this game a miss . I have to go to gaming annonoymous and have to stand up and say I PLAY GGE I AM A IDIOT , 12 steps before i go back into the real community 

[4881415] shadow fighter (IN1) [None] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 4:58 p.m.
pls reduce the distance 150 distance is too much and we are really uncomfortable with it..and enable us to loot some of the resources we are unable to get any resources even after a long time
hope u guys understand

[4881432] Batten (GB1) [GB1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 5:03 p.m.
Problems are
1) as suspected its not exactly very anonomous, you can work out who you hitting, as we again have arranged hit issues. you tried to ignore these issues by trying and failing to hide who is hitting.  
2) I cant see the point.  Seriously I have tried hard to fathom why i would spend time doing this either attacking or definding, there seems very little to gain.
3) its way too slow, 2 mins to spy a castle, and my spys are max speed.  over an hour to hit a castle, with fast tools and fast comms.
4) the rewards??   really?  


Should be 25 minutes to a castle Phil not sure why you would be taking an hour?  Also think your espionage speed might be a bit out I can reach in three seconds?  Are you talking about the coins option?  

At your level you probably wouldn't gain a lot from it to be fair but not sure your the target audience.  I can see what they are saying for players like me who haven't done much PVP lately it actually is useful particularly from an attacking sense I havenb't bother with that for about three years with mutli's and password sharing.  

The rewards are clearly going to change down the line.  It's actually pretty interesting for strategy type players as does give a fair amount of scope for an approach other than simply brute force.  I think it's worth giving a chance.  





[4881446] Ivan is back (INT1) [INT1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 5:11 p.m.
what is the point of having test server if you will have a test trial and say it had bugs but fckit we shall go with it and bend our players even more 

[4881462] kampo (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 5:26 p.m.
how about taking away the cost to reset our Hall? If you have your hall on defense , and don't have or want to spend 8k in ruby's to reset , then 4 waves of attackers is not going to cut it in this shape shifter event ! You have to give , if you want to take GGE . Free hall reset for the shape shifter event is what I say , and then I will be able to give you feed back on the event :)

[4881463] blood seeker 69 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 5:26 p.m.
@BM ang1243

to get on the 'rankings' do you need to complete all 5 totem attacks? if so, the speed needs to be significantly increased -- 2.5hrs per coin attack is ruthless............................

[4881464] Bubik (INT1) [None] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 5:26 p.m.
 :/

35% more troops on wall. no HoL in defense. but 668 defenders on wall.  One of my friends also got 826 on wall...Not really realistic, heh? Or I missed something in past.. But more likely, far from any mirrored players on server as you claimed.

Also, enemy castles are so so... Some has nothing inside..Everything looks like another FC/BC event just a bit harder....

what's the point of this event, BTW? 

[4881469] سيـ البراري ـد (SA1) [None] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 5:28 p.m.
If you make the equipment attack come back to the castle after consumption
And you underestimate the value of the prizes in the limit that may have been set well
But see it now is not good

[4881474] blood seeker 69 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 5:29 p.m.
 :/

35% more troops on wall. no HoL in defense. but 668 defenders on wall.  One of my friends also got 826 on wall...Not really realistic, heh? Or I missed something in past.. But more likely, far from any mirrored players on server as you claimed.

Also, enemy castles are so so... Some has nothing inside..Everything looks like another FC/BC event just a bit harder....

what's the point of this event, BTW? 
[11:21] blood seeker 69: gonna crunch some numbers here
[11:21] blood seeker 69: we know that the shapeshifter units are equivlant to KG defenders
[11:23] blood seeker 69: right now I have 359 vet flame and 90 vet comp troops on the wall
[11:24] blood seeker 69: combat strength of my melee on the wall = 6462
[11:24] blood seeker 69: combat strength of ranged on the wall = 1800
[11:24] blood seeker 69: if I changed that to... KGs....... let see
[11:26] blood seeker 69: OK, so here it is... each troop has a combat strength of the following
[11:26] blood seeker 69: vet flame = 18 eac
[11:26] blood seeker 69: vet comp = 20 each
[11:27] blood seeker 69: comparable to KG melee = 14
[11:27] blood seeker 69: KG ranged = 16
[11:27] blood seeker 69: so we would take my melee and divide that by 14
[11:27] blood seeker 69: 6462/14 =
[11:28] blood seeker 69: you would see approx 461 melee shapeshifter troops on my wall
[11:28] blood seeker 69: lets then take 188/16
[11:28] blood seeker 69: for the ranged
[11:28] blood seeker 69: errr 1800/16
[11:29] blood seeker 69: you'd see 112 approx shapeshifter ranged troops
[11:30] blood seeker 69: so if you'd spy my totem - it'd show approx 461M/112R troops on the wall
[11:30] blood seeker 69: this is why folks are seeing more troops on the wall
[11:31] blood seeker 69: should I get an incoming attack, I will double check my numbers
it is not a 1 for 1 unit troop conversion, it's a combined troop combat strength conversion... 

[4881475] DSMaharet (US1) [None] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 5:31 p.m.
Spy reports and Shapeshifter castles could maybe disappear (spy reports) and the castle could go gray once defeated?  

[4881485] Batten (GB1) [GB1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 5:37 p.m.
@BM ang1243

to get on the 'rankings' do you need to complete all 5 totem attacks? if so, the speed needs to be significantly increased -- 2.5hrs per coin attack is ruthless............................
I can answer the first question.  The answer is yes you don't show on the rankings until you have completed all five of your attacks.  In En1 at the moment leaders scores are:

The Only Moosh 4945  Crimson Guard
Ang1243  4022  Odins Fury
Itchytwit 4018  Crimson Guard
oWarhero 3677  Gondor
Liam Whittle 3677  The Round Table 

You can't see who has played what mode.  Top player gets awarded 1000 Insignia Point second gets 900 third gets 800 and then 700 and 600 points going down.  

In terms of the second question my attack speed was 25 minutes full rubies or feather, 37 minutes cheaper ruby option, 54 minutes coin option.  

Not sure if that helps.  

From what I saw in my attacks being able to deal with lime bombs or throwing nails looked to be one of the key things attackers needed to address.  Defensively using lime bombs and throwing nails looks a good option.  

[4881488] Batten (GB1) [GB1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 5:39 p.m.
Should say as well I don't think I lost tools and definitely didn't lose troops played in normal mode to get a feel for it this time.  I was able to use one set of tools for the whole event today.  

[4881560] shortbox (US1) [None] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 6:36 p.m.
There is a glitch you can exploit to receive glory,honor and loot. Scan honor rank...pick target and launch hit...win during a defend receive all 3...open gate get 2...lose get 1. Hope the hotfix doesn't fix this glitch.

Signed Jaded towards the pvp mockery event

[4881645] sittingbull11 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 7:31 p.m.

     Well I'm finishing up my last (5th) attack on the shapeshifters for the day and most likely forever!!! The way you built this event up I was really expecting great things!!! SHAME ON ME  !!!!   I can't believe that GGE has stooped so low with the recent events!! All big flops!!!!!

     What has happened to the gaming company you once were?? Once you made games and events that were fun to play and didn't cost an arm and leg. Now your putting out games that aren't as much fun to play and some of your events are just crazy!!! Now everytime we try around your trying to make us spend rubies just to stay in the game.

     Go back to the things that once got you to the top of the gaming world and stop trying to rob the players of all their money. Make the game fun to play once again and the money will come. If not you will keep losing people from your game and sooner or later you will be looking for another job! And good jobs don't grow on trees.


[4881683] Ed19363 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 8:01 p.m.
Way too slow for very little reward....3 hours each way...scrap it

[4881685] TAW (US1) [None] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 8:02 p.m.
Garbage event, just garbage

[4881701] blood seeker 69 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 8:13 p.m.
SUGGESTION 

@BM ang1243

if this is 'supposed' to be the p2p "learning" event, you should be able to see the others setup should you loose an attack ... would be quite helpful for those learning... 

[4881729] pasnab (US1) [None] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 8:27 p.m.
How about fixing all the things that doesn't work and bringing back events that are broken before coming up with a new dumbest event I've seen on GGE

[4881869] Awesomecastle13 (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 10:33 p.m.
It was said they wanted folks to learn how to do PVP, if thats true show all in reports after the attack, win or lose.  That way the attacker can learn as well.  Right now only the defender sees all win or lose.  I understand that normally the attacker would only see all if he/she won but if you made this event to learn then show all if he/she lost as well.  Would make a great learning tool.

[4881874] LMP (US1) [US1] :: Dec. 15, 2017, 10:38 p.m.
I have been playing this game for over 5 years and personally think this [shapeshifter] is the worst event I have seen to date.
I do not plan on participating - I would really like to see the return of the Alliance City Event since I have not been able to complete the commander set for that event after all my time and play already invested. The SS event just does not make much practical sense and the rewards are not worth the effort. Only item I see worth anything is the PO item that is in the hard mode, but even then, the level of troop loss at that level is not worth it, especially since other events will coincide and are much more worth of the time and and troop resources.