Forum: empire-en
Board: [816] News from the world of Empire
Topic: [355035] Advance Feature Introduction: The Fusion System
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UD1 (INT1) [INT1]
:: Aug. 13, 2018, 2:38 p.m.
FUSION NO NO NO TOTAL WORTHLESS UPDATE NOT WANTED NOT NEEDED NOT HERE
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dandelion1958 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 13, 2018, 2:47 p.m.
It used to be called defenstrationAmazingBrian7 (GB1) said:Take this 'feature' out of the game, put it in a box, then put it at the back of a cupboard marked 'Ridiculous Ideas'.
Then take the genius who decided this was a really great idea and throw him out of a fifth floor window onto a busy Autobahn.
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msantos29 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 13, 2018, 3:33 p.m.
This Amazing person who i dont know but that, regardless, seems a nice gentleman obviously clicked this button before realizing what it does..AmazingBrian7 (GB1) said:Take this 'feature' out of the game, put it in a box, then put it at the back of a cupboard marked 'Ridiculous Ideas'.
Then take the genius who decided this was a really great idea and throw him out of a fifth floor window onto a busy Autobahn.
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Herveus (AU1) [AU1]
:: Aug. 13, 2018, 4:27 p.m.
On the test server you got the things you need from bc/fl solo rewardsdandelion1958 (GB1) said:looks like you have to buy the stuff to do upgrades (if you open the fusion thingy and look at upgrade) - another thing i won't be doing !Philt123 (GB1) said:I have no idea how this feature is supposed to work, all i know is every deco i try to upgrade it says i need level 5 catalyst which it says i cant get no explanation of how i can get it just a straight no. Very usefull.
what i can see is lots of options to spend ruby, but no idea of what i even need or am likely to get for those rubies, first impressions are not good. Overly complicated with no instruction not a good combo.
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bernhardt (US1) [US1]
:: Aug. 13, 2018, 7:25 p.m.
Just hope you don't have a serious ticket item,because the ticket system is going to get swamped by this. I spent a good amount of time(and house rubies) playing with this on the test server. Told them what was wrong, that the whole thing was setup backwards, that nobody was going to like, and that they were going to get swamped in support. In my quick look(30 sec) at it today, I saw zero changes. Certainly not any that would have made it more understandable to the first time user. Oh well, I guess one thread with 3 replies(one of which was a comment that it would be forwarded to the development team) doesn't warrant a change.
What can you do, when you try to help them but they don't listen?
What can you do, when you try to help them but they don't listen?
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PetruWarrior (RO1) [RO1]
:: Aug. 13, 2018, 7:37 p.m.
GGS, i honestly tell you that you should dismiss the man who had the idea of the forge, and also the ones who considered it pretty good to be introduced into the game
Thanks!
Thanks!
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The Veteran (US1) [US1]
:: Aug. 13, 2018, 7:58 p.m.
Rip only level 70s can use the fusion feature lol.
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julio valero (INT1) [None]
:: Aug. 14, 2018, 1:35 a.m.
this is a rare way to make money for GG so implement it to spend my rubies lol
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ken.n (US1) [US1]
:: Aug. 14, 2018, 1:45 a.m.
I still can not sell, forge or delete my colossus and horsemen decos yet I am limited to only 50 in storage.
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bummer (AU1) (Banned) [AU1]
:: Aug. 14, 2018, 1:53 a.m.
50 is more than enough or are you trying to tell us you are willing to pay for this
Advanced Failure: The Fusion System
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JYT (US1) [US1]
:: Aug. 14, 2018, 2:31 a.m.
GGS, you have outdone yourself again!
10/10!
What a brilliant new update, complete with everything a good game needs: sophistication! Just like many other highly reputable and successful companies, you have delivered an ingenious, new way to raise the player's skill cap and allow for experimentation and a customizable playthrough.
While it may not appear simple at first glance, the decoration fusion system is an intuitive new feature, and once grasped, the possibilities are endless.
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It's not that GGS doesn't listen to feedback, or even ask for it (and promptly ignore it), but ultimately GGS considers their judgment more important than yours. This may seem incredibly stupid, but it's actually their key to success. If they did, they'd only be successful once. Many companies create a very successful product, but they milk it for profits for as long as possible by giving whatever customers ask for. GGS once did that very thing, with constantly improving equipment which were great all around, or less limited access to more powerful construction items.
However, GGS has since grown up, embracing a new, better maxim. While it hurts to kill great things, like the foreign invader for level 70s, it's necessary to stay on top in the long run, as no great thing stays there forever. This means not listening to your customers asking for a better jack-of-all-trades equipment set, and instead creating something that the players don't even know they want.
10/10!
What a brilliant new update, complete with everything a good game needs: sophistication! Just like many other highly reputable and successful companies, you have delivered an ingenious, new way to raise the player's skill cap and allow for experimentation and a customizable playthrough.
While it may not appear simple at first glance, the decoration fusion system is an intuitive new feature, and once grasped, the possibilities are endless.
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It's not that GGS doesn't listen to feedback, or even ask for it (and promptly ignore it), but ultimately GGS considers their judgment more important than yours. This may seem incredibly stupid, but it's actually their key to success. If they did, they'd only be successful once. Many companies create a very successful product, but they milk it for profits for as long as possible by giving whatever customers ask for. GGS once did that very thing, with constantly improving equipment which were great all around, or less limited access to more powerful construction items.
However, GGS has since grown up, embracing a new, better maxim. While it hurts to kill great things, like the foreign invader for level 70s, it's necessary to stay on top in the long run, as no great thing stays there forever. This means not listening to your customers asking for a better jack-of-all-trades equipment set, and instead creating something that the players don't even know they want.
These last two paragraphs adapted from Polymatter's YouTube Video, "The Grand Theory of Apple"
also, </sarcasm>
also, </sarcasm>
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wtaf. I hate every second I've spent on this game.
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STEVIEBEANZ (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 14, 2018, 10:19 a.m.
129 rubies for +1% blood points
anyone know the max you can put on a single hit? If you can put 1000 on then wooo-eee, thats going to be fun seeing people spend 200k for a series and only end up with 500 insignias because 20 or so people spent more.
edit: it says right there you prat. 100 per hit
anyone know the max you can put on a single hit? If you can put 1000 on then wooo-eee, thats going to be fun seeing people spend 200k for a series and only end up with 500 insignias because 20 or so people spent more.
edit: it says right there you prat. 100 per hit
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Pieter Cornelis (NL1) [NL1]
:: Aug. 14, 2018, 3:17 p.m.
Just ignore this fusionstuf, it cost ruby's and you don't need it... 
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Philt123 (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 15, 2018, 8:05 a.m.
the blood points thing is the ultimate GGE ploy spend a fortune but get nothing more, the blood points are nothing its the insignias that allow you to get stuff, no matter how many million rubies you spend you still will probably end up with the same amount of insignias as before, another total joke from gge.
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Osiris (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 15, 2018, 11:11 a.m.
you've built more than 50 horsemen and colossus decos? oh my word.....ken.n (US1) said:I still can not sell, forge or delete my colossus and horsemen decos yet I am limited to only 50 in storage.
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JYT (US1) [US1]
:: Aug. 15, 2018, 7:33 p.m.
ken has been top 10 in every colossus event I've ever looked at and I've been around for quite a while lol. Wouldn't be surprised if he had more than 100 colossi.Osiris (GB1) said:you've built more than 50 horsemen and colossus decos? oh my word.....ken.n (US1) said:I still can not sell, forge or delete my colossus and horsemen decos yet I am limited to only 50 in storage.
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Herveus (AU1) [AU1]
:: Aug. 15, 2018, 9:05 p.m.
I've seen people who have 2 full castles filled with collosi 245+ so yeah I myself also have quite a handfull but not that manyOsiris (GB1) said:you've built more than 50 horsemen and colossus decos? oh my word.....ken.n (US1) said:I still can not sell, forge or delete my colossus and horsemen decos yet I am limited to only 50 in storage.
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DK Banana (GB1) [GB1]
:: Aug. 15, 2018, 9:47 p.m.
Need to focus a little on language - catalysts are NEVER consumed by the reaction they speed up. Always good to think clearly before you embark on something. So muddled thinking leads to a poor outocme.
It woyld be far better to focus on the basics and get those right, players haave been complaining about these for long enough. After that consider gameplay - having to engage brain and tweak equipment for a target is part ofthe fun. Hand out 10s sets with bespoike rubies and we are painting by number.
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Kage (ASIA1) [ASIA1]
:: Aug. 16, 2018, 12:06 a.m.
In the last 15 minutes, i tried to figure out how the Fusion System works... wasted 15k rubyes for 3 usages of the forge, and 4 decos (?). And the result?
The decoration's original level was (30) with the feature used, i got to 31, and gave me +5 PO, original deco had 250 PO, so thats 250 -> 255... A total pointless feature, which has no use for me, or for players.
And to make sure that i will never use this sh%t again, i sold all my low po decos from the storeage. Got 8M coins in exchange, best deal ever. Better than using my time, nerves and rubyes on a failure feature.
In the end the result is still the same from my point of view, this feature is nothing more but just to eat your nerves, money (if you will to spend on it ofc) and time.
If they really cared about the game. From the start of 2016, when all these stupid updates started, if they changed their mind from not making more money from them, and to force players to buy more and more rubies, and actually care about the comunity, they could make this game so much better, and fun. For every update, for each month.
Just give that little chance for every player to achieve something from the update without spending thousands of hours in the front of PC, and good money worked by them, or family.
I understand that the company needs money, every company and human needs money, in exchange for what they work for. But this is just completely nonsense, forcing players for almost 4 years to spend money for every update, knowing that the people is tired of, they still continue to do it.
This summer, gge filled the glass to the top, with each update they implemented and each look item they addeded to the game. Shows the feature of their company, dying, slowly but without stopping.
Back on topic about forge system, i've seen many comments that this feature could've been much better made, and fun.
How?
Is the simplyest way.. that will thank gge and players, both sides.
Just let the player to pick the decorative he wants to upgrade, and another decorative to destroy in exchange for the upgrade.
But gge needed to pick the hard way, and forced their workers/developers to make such a feature for an easy game, that nobody understand it even after spending 1h in it. To be made only to eat rubyes.
@BM Fujiwara I feel bad for you that you had to translate and edit, work on this new update, and post it on the forum. I feel bad for all the moderators that gave their free time for this useless update, that could've been so much easier made... i bet you guys after finishing the post, got a headache ...
The decoration's original level was (30) with the feature used, i got to 31, and gave me +5 PO, original deco had 250 PO, so thats 250 -> 255... A total pointless feature, which has no use for me, or for players.
And to make sure that i will never use this sh%t again, i sold all my low po decos from the storeage. Got 8M coins in exchange, best deal ever. Better than using my time, nerves and rubyes on a failure feature.
In the end the result is still the same from my point of view, this feature is nothing more but just to eat your nerves, money (if you will to spend on it ofc) and time.
If they really cared about the game. From the start of 2016, when all these stupid updates started, if they changed their mind from not making more money from them, and to force players to buy more and more rubies, and actually care about the comunity, they could make this game so much better, and fun. For every update, for each month.
Just give that little chance for every player to achieve something from the update without spending thousands of hours in the front of PC, and good money worked by them, or family.
I understand that the company needs money, every company and human needs money, in exchange for what they work for. But this is just completely nonsense, forcing players for almost 4 years to spend money for every update, knowing that the people is tired of, they still continue to do it.
This summer, gge filled the glass to the top, with each update they implemented and each look item they addeded to the game. Shows the feature of their company, dying, slowly but without stopping.
Back on topic about forge system, i've seen many comments that this feature could've been much better made, and fun.
How?
Is the simplyest way.. that will thank gge and players, both sides.
Just let the player to pick the decorative he wants to upgrade, and another decorative to destroy in exchange for the upgrade.
But gge needed to pick the hard way, and forced their workers/developers to make such a feature for an easy game, that nobody understand it even after spending 1h in it. To be made only to eat rubyes.
@BM Fujiwara I feel bad for you that you had to translate and edit, work on this new update, and post it on the forum. I feel bad for all the moderators that gave their free time for this useless update, that could've been so much easier made... i bet you guys after finishing the post, got a headache ...
Anyways guys. I spent like 1h to write this, to place my thoughts in good order and words, so all can understand what i want to say.
This game could've been made so much easy, in every updates. In every feature and mechanic of the game.
But in the end, what i say to you guys is. Is time to leave the game behind, time to spend more time in real life, time to start looking for other games. Or not, like me, just stop ... just stop.
For me is hard to make such a decision to leave the game, or let the acc to go in ruins. So, i'll just stop giving big amount of money to gge. I like to spend money in this game, you can see that i bought the "Knight of the Red Sun" decorative, which i think, is my favorive decorative from the game, 255 PO. And it was a good deal 15k rubies, and wait for the HTML5 to be released, the game will run much better, but that's just a hope. 
Anyway, thank you for reading my entire romane, i hope i brought some feedback to the moderators, and will comment to it, but i doubt it will happen.
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LORD BRUCE1 (US1) [US1]
:: Aug. 16, 2018, 11:32 a.m.
I used to play Kingdoms of Camelot a game by Kabaam. I quit playing because of the never ending changes that required even more and more money to be spent. If GGE keeps chasing my money, they will fall into a hole, a dark hole because this lvl 70 player will quit. I know my pitiful few dollars I have actually spent may not mean much to GGE, but it meant something to me. I will not make the same mistake again, I will walk away.